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 FRACTALife
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Michio Kaku is one of my favorite physicists and a great author. I love him a lot.
Just saw an interview of him where he refused to believe LSD had anything to do with Crick cracking the structure of DNA and he seemed kind of anti drug and not a believer of psychedelics.
Makes me mad that one of the smartest people suffers from the loss of knowledge the system doesn't want you to know.
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Tangerines
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I actually agree with him about Crick and DNA. Plus it was not just Crick who came up with the double helix. Anyways, I cannot stand Kaku but that is probably because I can understand actual science and do not need it dumbed down.
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wholesheet
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there is something to be learned in that crazy stuff
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NizzyJones
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Tangerines said:
I actually agree with him about Crick and DNA. Plus it was not just Crick who came up with the double helix.
Yeah, I read Watson's book about discovering the double helix structure and I don't know where that particular rumor comes from. I've never seen any credible source for it.
Edit: and here's a conversation over at the snopes message board sourcing an article where Crick actively denied it. http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=22271
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 FurrowedBrow
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FRACTALife said:
Michio Kaku is one of my favorite physicists and a great author. I love him a lot.
Just saw an interview of him where he refused to believe LSD had anything to do with Crick cracking the structure of DNA and he seemed kind of anti drug and not a believer of psychedelics.
Makes me mad that one of the smartest people suffers from the loss of knowledge the system doesn't want you to know.
got a link?
Have you guys heard of Dr. Jim Fadiman? He's a pretty bright guy. I had a chance to meet him last april. He's done experiments at Stanford where they get a group of engineers together, who have all been working on a problem but are stuck on the appropriate solution. So he gives them all minute doses of LSD and has them work together on the problem. Most of the time they realized the solution. LSD brings in a fresh perspective that just isn't possible in the everyday stream of consciousness. did he discover the double helix while on lsd? Probably to the same extent that it helped steve jobs discover personal computers. Here's the point of all this, without LSD, we probably wouldn't be here now. LSD has shaped our society in unimaginable ways. And since NO ONE in the scientific or any other professional community will admit that they used LSD in a beneficial way the true depth of how this drug has influenced society goes unnoticed. It's a real tragedy of such a wonderful class of drugs.
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NizzyJones
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Probably to the same extent that it helped steve jobs discover personal computers.
I totally agree with your main point but that was The Woz, not Jobs. These kinds of mistakes are why we can't trust anything that's not reliably sourced 
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FurrowedBrow
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I think the analogy still holds true.
I was making reference to the letter that A. Hofmann sent to S. Jobs before he died.
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Dear Mr. Steve Jobs,
Hello from Albert Hofmann. I understand from media accounts that you feel LSD helped you creatively in your development of Apple computers and your personal spiritual quest. I'm interested in learning more about how LSD was useful to you.
I'm writing now, shortly after my 101st birthday, to request that you support Swiss psychiatrist Dr. Peter Gasser's proposed study of LSD-assisted psychotherapy in subjects with anxiety associated with life-threatening illness. This will become the first LSD-assisted psychotherapy study in over 35 years.
I hope you will help in the transformation of my problem child into a wonder child.
Sincerely,
A. Hofmann
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ryan-grim/read-the-never-before-pub_b_227887.html
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NizzyJones
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Yes it does.
Just practicing to play a Militant Agnostic later. I don't know and you don't either! 
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FurrowedBrow
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u are quick. i just edited that post.
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NizzyJones
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Huh... maybe I was the one conflating the Steves. Woz always seemed more the type for it.
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