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 Tank333
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 Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s *UPDATE 9/19* 
#475189 - 09/10/10 04:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jilly Bean and Pandora - Indoor soil w/CFL’s
Using rock wool to start clones
Move into dixies @ 3-5 inches
Move into 1gal pots @ 8-10 inches
Move into 3gal pots @ 14+ inches (just started using 3 gal pots. Before, it was in a 1 gal all the way to harvest)
Growing medium:
FFOF w/50% perlite added
Just started doing this; before they had been using MG (horrible, I know! lol).
Lights:
(Flowering Room) CFL’s, 17, 50 watt and 3, 150 watt f/s along with 10, 40 watt, T-8 lights on the floor, pointing up.
(Veg Room) CFL’s, 3 150 watt f/s.
Temp lvl:
Ranges between 70 and 90.
Nutes:
GH: FloraGro & FloraBloom, Hardwater FloraMicro. 2-1-6, 0-5-4, and 5-0-1, respectively
Pruning/Training techniques:
None at this point, pruning fan leaves as needed to allow more light penetration only.
So…. This is not a “from scratch” operation. A friend of mine asked for assistance, and my wife and I are gladly giving what we can. So far, there have been a few issues we’ve been able to recognize and remedy without too much difficulty, but there’s a history here that’s almost unforgivable…
We have two plants remaining from a batch of 15 that started out in hydro buckets. They were going pretty well, and I guess they got three or four plants all the way to harvest and got some pretty dense, tasty buds off them. But then there began a humidity and algae issue of some sort (not sure, this was before we came into the picture) that started to kill the plants. This caused them to worry that hydro was not working, and they abandoned the plan, and put the plants into soil (they had done one soil grow before they switched to hydro). Now, not only did they put the basket AND plant into the soil, but before putting it into the soil, they took the plants into the bathroom and under the tap water, washed the black algae growth off the roots. This procedure caused about half the remaining plants to die, and only 4 or 5 survived the whole ordeal.
Now, we’ve got the two youngest of those plants in pots, one about 2-4 days from harvesting, the second about two weeks off. There are 8 total in the flowering room now, and 6 or 7 in the veg room, all staggered to about 10-14 days apart.
We’re trying to put together a feeding and watering schedule for them to stick to, and it seems to be working to feed the plants in the grow room every other day, and watering every day in between with R/o water. I’m still working on the ones in the veg room.
There’s a couple things I’d like some advice and comments about… The P/h lvl in the soil… I’m not sure how exactly to check that, that what to do to increase or decrease it.
Second, I’m wondering if it’s a bad idea to be switching pots so many times. I’ve got them going from dixies into a 1 gallon, then into a 3 gallon, and I don’t know if that’s gonna be too many shocks to the roots or not.
Also, on the oldest two plants, it seems that the branches aren’t strong enough to hold up the cola’s well, and they seem like they’re liable to snap at any moment. Is there any way to strengthen the stems, and is there a good way to string them up so they don’t cause too much stress on the plant?
I think that’s all that we can think of at the moment. We’re tinkering with them every day, so we’ll definitely be back with more questions for people though… And I'm working on getting a decent camera to use, too. The only one I have available to me atm is the crappy one on my phone.
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Edited by Tank333 (09/19/10 01:56 AM)
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 Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: Tank333]
#475396 - 09/11/10 01:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, tonight we watered and fed all the plants but the oldest.
The two that were just introduced to the budding cycle we put 2 tsp of Flora gro/micro/bloom in a gallon, and they took about 1/3 of the gallon in each.
The oldest plant we decided was ready to go, and wasn't watered or fed... 
The five others each split a gallon of water with 1/2/3 tsp of Flora gro/micro/bloom mixed in. One of the plants seemed to be a bit wet still from last night, so it didn't get much food, as I was a little worried of over watering.
None of these plants have been pruned much at all. My friend had said that he "let them grow as they wanted", and he felt it was doing well. I reminded him about how when you don't prune your apple trees, you end up with hundreds of really small apples, but when you prune it and shape the tree to maximize yield, you'll end up with bigger, tastier apples. Once I put it that way, he told me to prune as I saw fit, and I did. We only removed a couple from each plant, so we wouldn't shock it too badly (they were just all moved into 3gal. pots just 3 nights ago, except the two we transferred tonight). The younger plants each got three of their lower, smaller branches removed, and the older ones had one or two taken off that were just not going to go anywhere.
So, once we trimmed up yellowing leaves, and cleaned everything up, we took the oldest inside to be harvested. We took off 18 nice large colas, and trimmed them up. We'll be making some nice hash and butter from the stems and leaves here shortly! 
I would like some input on curing methods though. I do know that you're supposed to hang it in the dark for a while, then put it in a bag, or a jar, or on a screen? I've heard lots of vague ideas but never really got good exact times from anyone... and I've heard lots of different times mentioned too, anywhere from 7 days to 45+! Is that long really necessary, and if so, why? What would be the benefits from curing it that long?
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: treefer]
#475481 - 09/11/10 10:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow! A year+? That's just insane. Thank you for you input.
We currently have them hanging in the closet. The person we're helping normally hangs them for a few days then puts them on a suspended screen for a few more days. I'm going to try to convince him to let this one cure a little longer, say 2 weeks, before moving them to the screen.
The more methods We hear about the better, so if anyone out there has any other idea please bring them to the table.
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: treefer]
#475488 - 09/11/10 10:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea, before he had only been letting it dry from hanging for three or four days and then putting it on the screen for a couple more days.
There was no jar involved with his process...  It was a very amateurish way to do it, if you ask me...
Also, I'm working on getting a decent camera. Once I do, I'll have some pics up that are decent. If you want, I can take some with my phone, but they're hella crappy quality and small to boot...
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Edited by Tank333 (09/11/10 10:58 AM)
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: treefer]
#475545 - 09/11/10 12:50 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK, I got a few pics of the veg room babies, but the lights are off in the bud room, so you'll have to wait on those.
Here's three of the four Jilly Bean clones that are in the veg room, from the youngest to the oldest...
  
Here are the two Pandora's that are in the veg room.
 
I'm a little worried about the youngest of the Pan's. It's got a couple leaves that are turning quite yellow and sick looking...
Does anyone have any comments/suggestions about this? Unfortunately, these babies are in the patient's bedroom closet, and his wife waters from time to time, and it usually ends up with the dixie cups sitting in a lot of water until I notice it and pour it out... It looks to me like the yellowing is from over-watering, but I'm just not experienced enough to know for sure...
Also, I've never heard of people doing half the things these guys do things... Lol. They had a problem with some sort of fungus attacking the rockwool, and they fixed it by wrapping aluminum foil around it. This is taken off before planting in a pot, but I've never seen this done before... Has anyone else?
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#475632 - 09/11/10 03:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome! I knew I'd seen that image somewhere, but I just couldn't find it again. lol
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: MrsGreenThumb]
#475988 - 09/12/10 01:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sooo... When we turned on the lights tonight, most of the plants got a good trimming... Fan leaves that were blocking buds and the lowest branches got pruned on all of them. A couple still need a little bit more pruning, but that'll be it for most of them. We didn't want to shock them with too much in one night. They got a little last night too...
I finally got some pictures of the real good lookin' ones. My friend's phone has a surprisingly decent camera on it! So, we'll start at the oldest and go to the youngest...
This would be Jilly-14. She's the oldest in here, and the last that had been subjected to the switch from hydro to soil. She didn't have the fungus, but they didn't want to take chances, so they moved her over too.
   
Next I'll show you the Monster. Technically, she's older than J-14. She was used as a mother for a while, and then moved to the budding room when there was no more room for her in the veg room.
  
Next, we have J-15. She's the first of the fully-in-soil girls, and I'm excited to see how she does...
 
The Pandora would be the next in line. Sorry I don't have more pics of her, she's a beauty. I'm a little worried about having to move some of the lights up too much because of her...
Next is the J-16. She's a bit young, but shaping up to be pretty big.
Last but not least, we've got the two youngest of the budding room, J-17 and 18. They've only been in the budding room five days now...
 
So, that's all the pics for the moment... Let me see if I can steal my friend's phone again for another round of pics. I still wanted to get some decent ones of the lighting set-up.
I also took two clones tonight, from J-17. I scraped the stems, dipped them in water and then in Schultz Root-Take and then into a square of rock-wool. The larger of the two looks like it didn't take too well, but the smaller one seems to be happy. We'll see how they fare come morning...
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Edited by Tank333 (09/12/10 01:01 AM)
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: Tank333]
#476007 - 09/12/10 01:54 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I totally cannot believe that I forgot about this! I took the two youngest in the veg room that have just been put into pots, and tied them down. J-21 and J-22 are the first two I get to experiment on with LST.
   
Also, got some pics of the lights and the "ventilation" we have in there right now. Here's the lights on the left:
And here's the lights on the right:
Here's the lights in the center:
Here's the three fans we have for ventilation. Unfortunately, we can only keep the door open at night, when the lights are on, so they don't really get new air for 12 hours of the day...
  
The grow room's set up in a horseshoe shape that measures 9' 4" from the left side to the right, and 5'2" from the front to back. There's a 3'6" square in the center we use for sitting on a bucket while we prune or water. The lights are suspended from the ceiling by lightweight chains. The clamps make it pretty simple to move up and down when the plants get too big, or a smaller one replaces one just harvested.
I also measured the inside of the veg space we have, and that measures a measly 20" deep by 30" wide by 42 inches tall. Not nearly as much space as I'd like, but once we get the shed re-wired, it'll all be moved out there where there'll be just as much room for the veg as for the bud...
I hope that was pretty clear.
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#476176 - 09/12/10 02:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh, I know! I put the first hooks on the plants at about 9:30 last night, and when I checked them again at 4 am, they had already started turning back up towards the light! I put a second tie down on each of them at 4, and by this morning, they were looking awesome! I'll have more pics later today of those...
And the clones have both taken root well it seems. I was a little worried about the larger one, but it's stopped wilting, and looks like it's starting to take in new moisture.
I felt that the foil wrapped around the rock wool of the Pandora 3 was keeping the cube too moist, so I took off the foil, and took a paper towel to seep off some of the water that was soaked into the cube. It seems to have perked up this morning just from that, and tonight I'll probably give it some food with extra N for what looks to be that N deficiency...
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: God]
#476295 - 09/12/10 06:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honestly, it seemed like that to me as well, but they were taking it up pretty well. We had a hot spell for a while, and I think that may have contributed to their want for more water. We've actually started to pull back on how much we water. In the flowering room we're gonna see how watering every other night goes, and see if they like that a bit better.
As for watering in the veg room, that's been a bit more difficult to control, as it's in their bedroom closet, and not in the same area as the rest of everything else.
With the feeding, here's what each of them are getting:
The oldest ones, J-14, 15 and 16, the Monster and the Pandora-1 are all getting full nutes. Actually, J-14 won't be getting fed anymore though, since she's about 10 days from being harvested as it is. The full dose reccommended on the bottle is 1 tsp of the Floragro, 2 tsp of the flora micro, and 3 of the Florabloom for each gallon of water. These usually take about a gallon between the 5 of them, sometimes a little more.
The youngest ones in the budding room, J-17 & 18, are getting the suggested transitional phase dose, which is 2 tsp of each, gro micro and bloom per gallon of water.
The babies in the veg room have been getting nutes every watering, as far as I can figure out. The three oldest in there, the pan-2, the J-19 and J-20 get the full reccommended dose for vegging which is 3 tsp of the gro, 2 tsp of the micro, and 1 tsp of the bloom for each gallon of water.
The next two, J-21 and J-22 get half strenth nutes. The three older ones take about half a gallon, and then to water these, I just refill the jug to water it down a bit.
The new clones get the half-strength water, after it's been watered down once more...
Now, I'm a little worried the clones in the rock wool have been getting watered too much. How do I tell when they need more water?
Also, should the youngest clones not be getting nutes? I kinda feel like they should be getting straight water at least till they're in soil, but I can't really find anything definitive on that...
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: God]
#476409 - 09/13/10 02:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, but that was when they were in 1 gallon pots. Sometimes they would take more, but not often. They've only been watered once since they were put in the three gallon pots. We were going to water them tonight, but I felt the soil in all the pots, and they all seemed pretty moist, so I felt it would be best to wait to water. I'll check them again in the morning when I turn off the lights, but I think we'll just end up waiting till tomorrow night to water.
Update on the newest clones. They definitely took. I'm happy, because this was my first try at ever taking a clone and getting it to start. I'll be really proud of these two once they go all the way through flowering...
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: MrsGreenThumb]
#476921 - 09/14/10 07:21 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I decided to water last night. When I went out to turn on the lights, all the pots felt pretty dry. I also had been noticing that the some of leaves on most of the plants had been getting lighter colored, starting to go towards a yellow tinge, so I decided to feed everyone, too.
The Pandora had gotten fed the night before, so the four oldest got a gallon split between the four of them (the J-14 didn't get any food, since she's only 7-8 days from harvest). The two younger ones in there split a half-gallon, fed with the full suggested transitioning phase nutes.
So, I was wondering. When a plant seems to be deficient in a specific nutrient (ie. N, P, or K), should you feed it with what you feed it regularly, or should you change what you feed it, and if so, how much of what should you change? As I stated before, I'm using the GH FloraGro, FloraMicro, and FloraBloom, and those are the only nutrients I have right now, other than a really small amount of superthrive...
Could someone give me some insight on this?
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: God]
#477368 - 09/15/10 08:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, honestly, I don't think it's a lock-out problem... we've flushed all these plants once in the past month, and they seemed to really appreciate that. They've now been fed twice since being flushed, and they're looking a lot better.
We found evidence of mites last night though, so that's kinda my biggest worry at the moment... my friend says that he's had problems with mites before, and he'd used all sorts of things to try and fix em, till he found these "Hotshots hanging traps" that he says work really well.
I hope they do... i'd hate to see all this work destroyed!
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: Tank333]
#477371 - 09/15/10 08:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, when I water, should I be watering until there's runoff coming out the bottom of the pot, or is a gallon split between 4 plants enough water?
I've also been shown a reservoir method, where you put enough r/o water in a bucket to submerge the pots in. You keep them under the water until there's no bubbles comin up, then you pull it out, drain it, and go to the next one... I don't have the room for this method right now, but I will when the remodling is done. I was wondering that this might be a way for bacteria to collect in you water easily... anyone on here use this method and got some advice on it?
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#478667 - 09/17/10 04:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, so we just got a nice boost in the wattages in the flowering room. I finally convinced my friend to invest in at least some new CFL's (most of the ones in there have been there for at least 2 or 3 months). He went to Wal-Mart and picked up 6 of the 200 Watt equiv. CFL's for like 12.50 each.
It's WAY brighter in there now. I can't wait till I can pick up enough to get rid of all those crappy 100 watt equiv. bulbs!
The count is now 6 55 watt (200 w equiv.), 5 42 watt (150 w equiv.), and 10 of the little 23 watt (100 w equiv). And there's still the T-8's on the floor in there, too...
Also, we tried out some of the bud that we had harvested last Friday, too! We let it hang in the closet for three days, and then we put it in a duct-tape covered jar, letting it air for about 5-10 minutes, 4-8 times a day. It tastes pretty bland, honestly. Not as bad as I was expecting, but definitely weak and still had a small bit of that MG/vegetabley taste to it... I think if I'd smoked maybe another bowl and a half, I'd have gotten a decent head change off it (this is between three people, not just a solo bowl).
The nougs were decently dense though. Moreso than the last plant was. And the next one to be harvested has WAY thicker and fuller cola's than this one ever did! I'm thinking that the next four plants we harvest are really going to show the effects of the changes we've made in the way these plants are cared for.
I'm really excited to see this all happening!
And to boot, I finally got ahold of another friend of mine who needs a caretaker, and got my wife signed on as his. Now we have doubled the number of plants we can legally grow from 15 to 30!!!
Now we just have to get the dryer moved somewhere else and installed, so we can use the rest of the space in the garage for more plants! hahaha!!!
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Edited by Tank333 (09/17/10 04:41 PM)
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#478694 - 09/17/10 05:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well honestly, it's gonna be a lot of work to get a little "Dryer room" built onto the side of the shed, so I'm not going to be able to get more plants right away. There's not enough room in that little closet for more! lol
But we're probably gonna go with more clones. I know a few people with different strains, and I have a decent selection to chose from once I do have the room to make more. Right now, I can choose from White Widow, Rudy, Lola, Super Lemon Haze, Govt. Audit, San Fran., and Romulan... Once we have the extra room set up, we'll go with one new clone every 10 days, and probably pick up one or two new strains to go with the Jilly Bean and Pandora...
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: MR.HEADY]
#479039 - 09/18/10 11:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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MR.HEADY said:
It looks good but may i ask why did you trim all the leaves off during budding? I just thought that it was counter productive for the plants. I may be wrong tho.
Well, I might not have been completely clear there, but we didn't trim off ALL the leaves. Just a few here and there that we felt would allow for the best light penetration.
We also clipped the smallest of the branches on the bottoms of all the plants. We took two or three off each plant, each night. We didn't want to take too many at once and shock the plant.
We felt that if they had less branches to put their energy into, they would produce larger colas on the remaining branches.
I know there is a lot of debate as to whether or not trimming of the plant creates more/larger nougs in the end. I think I'm in favor of the "more trimming = more buds (within reason, of course)". When we have more room, we're going to be doing some testing of these theories, as my wife doesn't think a lot of trimming is a very good idea. lol
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: Hefe]
#479119 - 09/18/10 02:13 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually on all the plants we pruned, within 36 hours we were seeing new bud formations, and they just look way healthier since then.
Ideally, we wouldn't be pruning actual branches during the budding cycle, only during the veg, but none of these had ever been pruned/trimmed, and most had some branches that if left, wouldn't have gotten a full gram between all of them. Those were all removed, to allow the other buds to develop better.
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#479416 - 09/19/10 01:54 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, FINALLY borrowed a camera that worked right, and got some good pics of what I"ve got growin'.
Here's the youngest first. These are the two clones we took last weekend. These are a week old today. Still no sign of roots yet, but they're looking strong! I'm a little concerned about the yellowing on the lower leaves of the bigger one though... Are these babies old enough for some nutes? The recommended dosage on the bottles says 1/4 tsp per gallon of water, of the Gro/Micro/Bloom, for seedlings and cuttings.
   
Here's the two next in line. They're the two that we have been doing the most with the LST. We've kinda left them as is, for now, because we realized we don't have room in that little closet to do what we want to do with them. The third here is the next oldest. It was put into flower to sex it for some reason, then re-veged (which is why you can still see a couple single blade leaves at it's base), and that gave it a second main cola. We tied both of those down too, to see what it would to do help halt it's upward growth. It looks like its starting to get a little wilted, but the soil is still slightly moist. I'll be watering all these babdies as soon as I get up in the morning, to make em get a little thirsty.
  
Last of the clones is the Pandora. She's growing nicely. The Pan-3 died, unfortunately.
Feeding with light nutes stopped the yellowing, and then it showed roots outside the rockwool, so the patient's wife potted it.
Into MG.
It burned and died a slow horrible death... 
I swear to god, if I could afford to replace that 50lb bag of CRAP with FF, I would throw that thing away!
 
Now here's the Ladies in the grow room. Looking good after getting the new lights put in. Heat is becoming an issue though, so we're being forced to focus on getting a carbon scrubber and actual airflow coming in and out of the shed. The avg. temps are staying in the high 80's, and it's worrying me that it'll slow the growth down.
Pan 1  Monster  J-14 
J-15  J-16  J-17 
And J-18 
I'm a little concerned about J-16. It may be normal aging, I'm not sure, but several of the larger fan leaves have been yellowing and falling off.
 
I don't think it's a nute problem, because it was fed last night, with a little extra N in it, because I was worried about the yellowing. I would have posted about it then, but without pics, it's all just speculation... So what about these, huh? Is this natural shedding of older, less efficient fan leaves, or does this look like a real problem?
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I also moved the lights up from the Monster about 4 inches. With the increase in wattage above her, it looks like her tips were getting a little burnt.
 
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Edited by Tank333 (09/19/10 02:04 AM)
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Re: Jilly Bean/Pandora- Indoor soil w/CFL’s [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#479422 - 09/19/10 03:25 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well honestly, these are the first two I ever cut, and I didn't really know what I was doing. I didn't even cut them with cloning in mind. We were pruning last week, and my wife clipped them off and handed them to me to toss, and it just came to me. lol
I took them inside once we were done with the pruning, and got right to it. I pulled out the rooting powder we have (Shultz Root take, or something like that), and read it. It said dip it in water, then the powder, flick the stem to shake off excess powder and insert into rooting medium.
So, I re-cut the end while under water (a tip I learned as a kid working in my parent's flower-shop; it keeps an air bubble from blocking any water from being absorbed into the stem), and then scraped the bottom inch or so of the stem, to encourage the rooting powder to take hold. Then it went into the powder, and shook off the excess. I slid it into the square of rockwool, and then put it into the tray. Once they were both done, I poured a little bit of R/O water on top of the rockwool, and then about 1/2 inch in the bottom of the tray. I let it soak up as much as it could in 10 minutes, squeezed them a little bit to let a little air into the cube, and poured out the excess into one of the other pots...
After 20 minutes, it looked like the bigger one was going to die, it was wilted and drooped over, but by the end of the night it had recovered, and they were both looking great. Tonight was the second time they've been watered (I would have waited one more night, but the oh so helpful patient's wife did that for me today).
Do you think I need to be watering this clone with some weak nutes? I mean, it's been in there a week, and it hasn't had anything to eat at all, and I'm worried that's what it's from... 
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