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 Re: any of you beleive in god?  [Re: King Koopa]
#460846 - 08/15/10 05:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's what I hate about most folks.. arrogance and ego..I have never met God, but I BELIEVE. I don't need proof, that's the very essence of faith- trust.
Magash you know a shitload about cultivating, because you have done it over and over, and I respect that- but how many times have you died?
For you- for anyone to say they KNOW what lies beyond, is the apex of egocentricity, and chances are they're scared shitless of death and beyond.
I can't say I know for a fact where we go when we die, but I'm not arrogant enough to do that. I don't push my beliefs onto anyone, but it is MY belief, and my choice.
thats excatly right hendershot. i totally agree and i suppose that is what i was trying to say....you just have better words lol
can we stop this. It's a choice. A belief. Earlier he said to get rid of logic, thinking, and reason to be able to understand.  The only christians defending their belief is defending their belief in a supernatural being by saying "just do it".
To all believers in the thread, we're not surprised. Now let's back to an intelligent argument about religion
kthanx
Actually this thread is not about religion but about GOD.
However we do not have to tie religion into this. I believe there
is a universal consciousness that you could call god but definitely
not Jesus or Buddha.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460847 - 08/15/10 05:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your individual set of beliefs about God is still a form of religion so the point of not bringing religion into a discussion about God is quite moot.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day. 
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460848 - 08/15/10 05:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh shit you're right. But Hender and a girl were definitely talking about religion.
ain't there a word for the that: god without religion? I'm not to bright on the subject but I enough to call what you're talking about bullshit.
A certain "religion" has to be tied with the word god, be that your own religion or someone else's.
maybe you could enlighten me
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Edited by King Koopa (08/15/10 05:34 PM)
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460849 - 08/15/10 05:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am god.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460850 - 08/15/10 05:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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That's what I hate about most folks.. arrogance and ego..I have never met God, but I BELIEVE. I don't need proof, that's the very essence of faith- trust.
Magash you know a shitload about cultivating, because you have done it over and over, and I respect that- but how many times have you died?
For you- for anyone to say they KNOW what lies beyond, is the apex of egocentricity, and chances are they're scared shitless of death and beyond.
I can't say I know for a fact where we go when we die, but I'm not arrogant enough to do that. I don't push my beliefs onto anyone, but it is MY belief, and my choice.
I disagree on this. There seems to be an incredible amount of people
who claim to have out of body experiences and others phenomenon that
its becoming hard to ignore. Some people have even claimed that they
have seen family members takings in the other room of the hospital
after they had "died" and then telling the same family members what they said
and the family was amazed as to how it was possible.
Obviously this kind of thing will continue to be seen as speculation
because this is not something that can be proven but for me it just makes no sense that we have this life, this experience just to die
and have nothing to move on to after? Doesnt make any sense to me.
Your life is not wasted, it's recycled back into the universe.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460851 - 08/15/10 05:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your individual set of beliefs about God is still a form of religion so the point of not bringing religion into a discussion about God is quite moot.
I had no idea bats knew anything outside of the drug culture philosophies. 
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: King Koopa]
#460852 - 08/15/10 05:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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koopa you steal my bucket of chicken? 
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: King Koopa]
#460853 - 08/15/10 05:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
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THEBats said:
Your individual set of beliefs about God is still a form of religion so the point of not bringing religion into a discussion about God is quite moot.
I had no idea bats knew anything outside of the drug culture philosophies.
If only you knew.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460855 - 08/15/10 05:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just think everyone has their own set of beliefs. i dont think i was talking about religion....i was just saying that you can't ever prove anything about God's existence so believing is trusting and so forth without any evidence
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koopa you steal my bucket of chicken?
I think you should check out OTD over at the shroomery. You will
love it there. Seems right up ur ally 
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: A Girl]
#460857 - 08/15/10 05:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: A Girl] 1
#460862 - 08/15/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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A Girl said:
i just think everyone has their own set of beliefs. i dont think i was talking about religion....i was just saying that you can't ever prove anything about God's existence so believing is trusting and so forth without any evidence
A set of beliefs regarding God is religion.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
Edited by THEBats (08/15/10 05:45 PM)
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460863 - 08/15/10 05:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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FarBeyondDriven said:
koopa you steal my bucket of chicken?
I think you should check out OTD over at the shroomery. You will
love it there. Seems right up ur ally
We got something even better over here. 
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460864 - 08/15/10 05:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
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A Girl said:
i just think everyone has their own set of beliefs. i dont think i was talking about religion....i was just saying that you can't ever prove anything about God's existence so believing is trusting and so forth without any evidence
A set of beliefs regarding God is religion.
I hate it but ur right.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460866 - 08/15/10 05:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok...yea. lol that is what i believe....but like i said. it cant be proved like science and things
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: A Girl]
#460868 - 08/15/10 05:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok...yea. lol that is what i believe....but like i said. it cant be proved like science and things
I think if we give ourselves the chance. As in we dont kill our selves
off then we will get to a point where we can look into these matters
using science. Some people already claim to be doing such things.
Look up the "god helmet" on youtube.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460870 - 08/15/10 05:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
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DeadHearts said:
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FarBeyondDriven said:
koopa you steal my bucket of chicken?
I think you should check out OTD over at the shroomery. You will
love it there. Seems right up ur ally
We got something even better over here.
Thunderdome is something science nor religion can explain. It's where buddha would chill if he had a pc comuta and a lan connection.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: A Girl]
#460872 - 08/15/10 05:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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No but it could be disproven. Well, at least the personal God, christian interpretation. If we were to say conduct an experiment which creates life from organic molecules found in the universe and that life were to gain in complexity it would be reasonable to conclude that life came about as a natural cycle of this universe. Now this would not find what created the universe we inhabit today, but it could prove or at the very least highly suggest that if there is a God he is an impersonal watchmaker, in which case the idea of a heaven or hell would be silly.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460875 - 08/15/10 05:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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No but it could be disproven. Well, at least the personal God, christian interpretation. If we were to say conduct an experiment which creates life from organic molecules found in the universe and that life were to gain in complexity it would be reasonable to conclude that life came about as a natural cycle of this universe. Now this would not find what created the universe we inhabit today, but it could prove or at the very least highly suggest that if there is a God he is an impersonal watchmaker, in which case the idea of a heaven or hell would be silly.
Indeed. I mean I think its pretty cut and dry from my stand point on
heaven and hell anyways. It really just seems as if these things were
put in place to keep people in line. Just like modern day laws. The
whole thing is just fishy so to speak.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460885 - 08/15/10 06:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now let's get back to an intelligent argument about religion
Isn't that an oxymoron
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THEBats said:
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A Girl said:
i just think everyone has their own set of beliefs. i dont think i was talking about religion....i was just saying that you can't ever prove anything about God's existence so believing is trusting and so forth without any evidence
A set of beliefs regarding God is religion.
My whole spin on God and consciousness = what we perceive as 'god' is just the next level of consciousness
"God" in the Judea-Christian religions does not exist IMO
When we feel god isn't the creator of the universe....its just Gaia
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