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 THEBats
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 Re: any of you beleive in god?  [Re: Hendershot]
#460796 - 08/15/10 04:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hendershot said:
I never said it was fair.. but that's why we have free will.. life is all about choices.. as for judgemental people, I've experienced the same from non-believers for disobeying the laws of logic.. we're all human, and flawed..
Why would you believe in an unfair God?
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day. 
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460800 - 08/15/10 04:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
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Hendershot said:
I never said it was fair.. but that's why we have free will.. life is all about choices.. as for judgemental people, I've experienced the same from non-believers for disobeying the laws of logic.. we're all human, and flawed..
Why would you believe in an unfair God?
Some people would say its not for us to understand 
If there is a god it doesnt give a fuck what we do. We are here
and we are going to live out this experience one way or another in
one form or another. No heaven nor hell. Maybe a personal heaven or hell but I believe that will be up to us to decide.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460802 - 08/15/10 04:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's what I was getting at. People have a reason for every choice they make, a reason that God, if he existed as he is described by Judea-Christian philosophy, would understand. People aren't born evil, they are made that way through life experience.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
Edited by THEBats (08/15/10 04:11 PM)
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Magash
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460805 - 08/15/10 04:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heaven / Hell / good / bad / yadda yadda yadda
Know what dead is? Know those nights when you don't have any dreams just go to bed, darkness then wake up. Well dead is not waking up from one of those nights. We can put all the imaginary bullshit we want on it but dead is dead. 
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: Magash]
#460812 - 08/15/10 04:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Magash said:
Heaven / Hell / good / bad / yadda yadda yadda
Know what dead is? Know those nights when you don't have any dreams just go to bed, darkness then wake up. Well dead is not waking up from one of those nights. We can put all the imaginary bullshit we want on it but dead is dead.
Well if that is the case then its doesnt matter anyways.
But there is no doubt in my mind there is something more than
meets the eye besides dead is dead.
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FarBeyondDriven
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460822 - 08/15/10 04:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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This argument and thread will go on forever...
You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. Leave it at that. No need for the violence man 
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Hendershot
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460824 - 08/15/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's what I hate about most folks.. arrogance and ego..I have never met God, but I BELIEVE. I don't need proof, that's the very essence of faith- trust.
Magash you know a shitload about cultivating, because you have done it over and over, and I respect that- but how many times have you died?
For you- for anyone to say they KNOW what lies beyond, is the apex of egocentricity, and chances are they're scared shitless of death and beyond.
I can't say I know for a fact where we go when we die, but I'm not arrogant enough to do that. I don't push my beliefs onto anyone, but it is MY belief, and my choice.
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FarBeyondDriven said:
This argument and thread will go on forever...
You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. Leave it at that. No need for the violence man
QFT
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I'm right and everyone else is wrong 
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FarBeyondDriven said:
This argument and thread will go on forever...
You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. Leave it at that. No need for the violence man
wheres the violence??
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Hendershot
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: Mr. Kite]
#460831 - 08/15/10 05:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mr. Kite said:
I'm right and everyone else is wrong
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: Hendershot]
#460833 - 08/15/10 05:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hendershot said:
That's what I hate about most folks.. arrogance and ego..I have never met God, but I BELIEVE. I don't need proof, that's the very essence of faith- trust.
I can't say I know for a fact where we go when we die, but I'm not arrogant enough to do that. I don't push my beliefs onto anyone, but it is MY belief, and my choice.
thats excatly right hendershot. i totally agree and i suppose that is what i was trying to say....you just have better words lol
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460836 - 08/15/10 05:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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FarBeyondDriven said:
This argument and thread will go on forever...
You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. Leave it at that. No need for the violence man
wheres the violence??
Not in this thread 
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FarBeyondDriven said:
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DeadHearts said:
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FarBeyondDriven said:
This argument and thread will go on forever...
You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. Leave it at that. No need for the violence man
wheres the violence??
Not in this thread
lol you made it sound like people were getting pissed and what not
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FarBeyondDriven
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: DeadHearts]
#460838 - 08/15/10 05:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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We need a grem for facepalm/ temple rub. Kinda like the guy in Richie Rich who was like "clockwise, clockwise" while the hot chick was rubbin his head.
You're making my head hurt DeadHearts
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Mr. Kite
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We should call it :FBD: cuz you seem to use it the most.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: Hendershot]
#460840 - 08/15/10 05:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hendershot said:
That's what I hate about most folks.. arrogance and ego..I have never met God, but I BELIEVE. I don't need proof, that's the very essence of faith- trust.
Magash you know a shitload about cultivating, because you have done it over and over, and I respect that- but how many times have you died?
For you- for anyone to say they KNOW what lies beyond, is the apex of egocentricity, and chances are they're scared shitless of death and beyond.
I can't say I know for a fact where we go when we die, but I'm not arrogant enough to do that. I don't push my beliefs onto anyone, but it is MY belief, and my choice.
I disagree on this. There seems to be an incredible amount of people
who claim to have out of body experiences and others phenomenon that
its becoming hard to ignore. Some people have even claimed that they
have seen family members takings in the other room of the hospital
after they had "died" and then telling the same family members what they said
and the family was amazed as to how it was possible.
Obviously this kind of thing will continue to be seen as speculation
because this is not something that can be proven but for me it just makes no sense that we have this life, this experience just to die
and have nothing to move on to after? Doesnt make any sense to me.
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FarBeyondDriven said:
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We need a grem for facepalm/ temple rub. Kinda like the guy in Richie Rich who was like "clockwise, clockwise" while the hot chick was rubbin his head.
You're making my head hurt DeadHearts
I think you should settle down. How am I frustrating you??
I mean I did mock ur facepalm but for good reason as it was not
necessary whatsoever and somewhat rude.
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: Mr. Kite]
#460843 - 08/15/10 05:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's a lot to around here
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: A Girl]
#460844 - 08/15/10 05:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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A Girl said:
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Hendershot said:
That's what I hate about most folks.. arrogance and ego..I have never met God, but I BELIEVE. I don't need proof, that's the very essence of faith- trust.
Magash you know a shitload about cultivating, because you have done it over and over, and I respect that- but how many times have you died?
For you- for anyone to say they KNOW what lies beyond, is the apex of egocentricity, and chances are they're scared shitless of death and beyond.
I can't say I know for a fact where we go when we die, but I'm not arrogant enough to do that. I don't push my beliefs onto anyone, but it is MY belief, and my choice.
thats excatly right hendershot. i totally agree and i suppose that is what i was trying to say....you just have better words lol
can we stop this. It's a choice. A belief. Earlier he said to get rid of logic, thinking, and reason to be able to understand.  The only christians defending their belief is defending their belief in a supernatural being by saying "just do it".
To all believers in the thread, we're not surprised. Now let's get back to an intelligent argument about religion
kthanx
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