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Weed and babies.
    #457650 - 08/10/10 11:37 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone have any information about smoking bud when youre prego??


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Tina]
    #457652 - 08/10/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

dont

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #457656 - 08/10/10 12:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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dont





Or any drugs for that matter.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #457660 - 08/10/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you'll be straight


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #457662 - 08/10/10 12:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's seems to have worked out for you.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Tina]
    #457664 - 08/10/10 12:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm.. you will be able to find opinion on both sides of this debate. I get the feeling you want to hear that it's ok.. I dont blame ya. However, I would advise against SMOKING anything, simply because of the chemical compounds and carcinogens. I would say it's ok to partake in some cannabis cuisine, but that's just my opinion- I'm no prenatal specialist.Read this..you may be surprised..
http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-safe-to-smoke-marijuana-during-pregnancy_2490.bc


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Hendershot]
    #457667 - 08/10/10 12:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Put it this way.  During prenatal development there exists many teratogens, fancy word for substances that interfere with development, that you should avoid.  It's in my researched opinion that marijuana is one of them.  It's effects on development are not quite clear though it CAN'T be of any benefit so why would you risk your child's development because you want to smoke?

Unless of course you want to bless the world with another kickin-two-hundo.  Then go right ahead, smoke up.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

Edited by THEBats (08/10/10 12:52 PM)

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: THEBats]
    #457693 - 08/10/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

im not pregnate. just wondering. i personally wouldnt. i Teach pre K and smelt it on a prego mom and it Thought id ask yall what yall thought.


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Tina]
    #457699 - 08/10/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

She may have just been around it or something.  I'm down for females' freedom to do whatever, and I'm not really controlling in the least bit.  However, if a lady was pregnant with my child, she wouldn't do anything, period.  I know I probably sound like a fucking nazi or whatever, but I don't care, I wouldn't go for that shit.  That's my kid too.


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Tina]
    #457700 - 08/10/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's good then.  Yeah it's just not a good idea.  Even more distressing is pregnant women I see drink caffeinated beverages, they don't realize that they're consuming a stimulant that could possibly cause harm later on.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #457702 - 08/10/10 01:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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She may have just been around it or something.  I'm down for females' freedom to do whatever, and I'm not really controlling in the least bit.  However, if a lady was pregnant with my child, she wouldn't do anything, period.  I know I probably sound like a fucking nazi or whatever, but I don't care, I wouldn't go for that shit.  That's my kid too.




You don't sound like a nazi at all.  It should be considered common sense to not do any drugs while you're pregnant.  There's plenty of other things you should also avoid but drugs are certainly up at the top of the list.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #457712 - 08/10/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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She may have just been around it or something.  I'm down for females' freedom to do whatever, and I'm not really controlling in the least bit.  However, if a lady was pregnant with my child, she wouldn't do anything, period.  I know I probably sound like a fucking nazi or whatever, but I don't care, I wouldn't go for that shit.  That's my kid too.



If that makes you a nazi then I guess I am one too

THEBats I liked your unless you want another comment it was funny as hell


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Kilroy]
    #457717 - 08/10/10 01:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:highfive:


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Kilroy]
    #457720 - 08/10/10 01:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think chicks that get fucked up while they're pregnant should get punched in the fuckin face to be honest.  I wouldn't do it :lol:  But I just wish they would.  I can't stand that shit.  To be honest, I don't think one or two hits of herb EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE is a problem when you're pregnant, but there's too much to chance, so it shouldn't be done.  You're not supposed to eat fish either right?  What else can't a female do when they're not prego?


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Kilroy]
    #457723 - 08/10/10 01:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Good thread.

I've known two pregos who smoked while pregnant, both of their kids seem normal enough (for babies).


I like that everyone seems to be supporting the woman's choice in the matter while also pointing out potential consequences. Good job :thumbup:

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However, if a lady was pregnant with my child, she wouldn't do anything, period.







I'm with this too
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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #457724 - 08/10/10 01:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah some fish, especially tuna, can contain low levels of mercury that can effect prenatal development.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: THEBats]
    #457730 - 08/10/10 01:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yea the bigger the sea creature the more mercury
Food chain ftl


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: THEBats]
    #457731 - 08/10/10 01:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah some fish, especially tuna, can contain low levels of mercury that can effect prenatal development.



The MN rule and regulation book for fishing has the warning about the mercury as well


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Kilroy]
    #457891 - 08/10/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ugh, i just scanned over this thread and saw that no one posted the following links.  I've taken the relavent parts out and quoted them here.  What do you believe?  Smoking it certainly isn't a good idea as that's just bad in general, and we all know that.  I still would caution my pregnant gf/wife to not do it.  But if she did once or twice i wouldn't flip out about it. 

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2. Marijuana damages the reproductive system

    This claim is based chiefly on the work of Dr. Gabriel Nahas,
who experimented with tissue (cells) isolated in petri dishes, and
the work of researchers who dosed animals with near-lethal amounts
of cannabinoids (i.e., the intoxicating part of marijuana).  Nahas'
generalizations from his petri dishes to human beings have been
rejected by the scientific community as being invalid.  In the case
of the animal experiments, the animals that survived their ordeal
returned to normal within 30 days of the end of the experiment.
Studies of actual human populations have failed to demonstrate that
marijuana adversely affects the reproductive system.





http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info14.shtml

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CLAIM #7:

MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY HARMS THE FETUS

A powerful accusation in anti-drug campaigns is that children are permanently harmed by their mothers' use of drugs during pregnancy. Today, it is commonly claimed that marijuana is a cause of birth defects and development deficits.

THE FACTS

A number of studies claimed reported low birth weight and physical abnormalities among babies exposed to marijuana in utero. 43 However, when other factors known to affect pregnancy outcomes were controlled for - for example, maternal age, socioeconomic class, and alcohol and tobacco use - the association between marijuana use and adverse fetal effects disappeared. 44

Numerous other studies have failed to find negative impacts from marijuana exposure. 45 However, when negative outcomes are found, they tend to be widely publicized, regardless of the quality of the study.

    It is now often claimed that marijuana use during pregnancy causes childhood leukemia. The basis for this claim is one study, in which . 5% of the mothers of leukemic children admitted to using marijuana prior to or during pregnancy. A "control group" of mothers with normal children was then created and questioned by telephone about previous drug use. Their reported .5 % marijuana use-rate was used to calculate a 10-fold greater risk of leukemia for children born to marijuana users. 46 Given national surveys showing marijuana prevalence rates of at least 10%, these "control group" mothers almost certainly under-reported their drug use to strangers on the telephone.

Also used as evidence of marijuana-induced fetal harm are two longitudinal studies, in which the children of marijuana users were examined repeatedly. However, on closer examination, the effects of marijuana appear to be quite minimal, if existent at all.

    After finding a slight deficit in visual responsiveness among marijuana-exposed newborns, no differences were found at six months, 12 months, 18 months, or 24 months. 47 At age 3, the only difference (after controlling for confounding variables) was that children of "moderate" smokers had superior psycho-motor skills. At age 4, children of "heavy" marijuana users (averaging 18.7 joints/week) had lower scores on one subscale of one standardized test of verbal development. 48 At age 6, these same children scored lower on one computerized task - that measuring "vigilance." On dozens of others scales and subscales, no differences were ever found. 49

    In another study, standardized IQ tests were administered to marijuana-exposed and unexposed three year-olds. Researchers found no differences in the overall scores. However, by dividing the sample by race, they found - among African-American children only - lower scores on one subscale for those exposed during the first trimester and lower scores on a different subscale for those exposed during the second trimester. 50

Although it is sensible to advise pregnant women to abstain from using most drugs - including marijuana - the weight of scientific evidence indicates that marijuana has few adverse consequences for the developing human fetus.




http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml

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(2) POT FOUND NOT TO CAUSE  FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME

  A new study of children born to marijuana-smoking
mothers found no link between marijuana exposure and the
birth defects of fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS).  The new study,
by Dr. Susan J. Astley of the University of Washington,
published in the January, 1992 issue of Pediatrics, 
contradicted a 1982 study by Dr. Ralph Hingson, in which
prenatal exposure to marijuana was found to increase the risk
of FAS.
    Hingson's results, which have not been replicated, have
been questioned on various methodological grounds, in
particular the difficulty of controlling for combined drinking
and pot use. 
  The new study looked for facial deformities
symptomatic of FAS in 40 children whose mothers had smoked
marijuana heavily during pregnancy and 40 controls, It found no
association between marijuana and FAS, but deformities were
observed in children of women who drank 2 ounces of alcohol
per day or took cocaine.





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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #457905 - 08/10/10 06:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm nice FB!
great info, thanks


and you arent supposed to dye your hair in the first trimester.
there are so many things.

i doubt she was just around it. it was like a j that was just smoked in the car kind of strong smell.
either way- if youre on your way to pick up your kid(s) from school, dont reek of pot.
some teachers will report that shit.


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #458003 - 08/10/10 09:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Weird that this thread came up now. I have been thinking about the womb lately and these painting by Stanislav Grof that he drew on LSD I believe. :lsd::heart:





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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Tina]
    #458005 - 08/10/10 09:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FRACTALife]
    #458006 - 08/10/10 09:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lolsy:


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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: FRACTALife]
    #458007 - 08/10/10 09:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Weed and babies. [Re: Inverted]
    #458074 - 08/10/10 10:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

I've killed a few in my time as well then.


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