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 curbstop
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 Looks like Ozone Damage *DELETED* 
#445409 - 07/12/10 02:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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 Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#445458 - 07/12/10 03:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm I am not a expert but I think it might have something to do with the ferts. I mean you do not know the Ph of your soil So That is my quess. But wait for someone else.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: critik]
#445460 - 07/12/10 03:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also Can I see the Whole plant?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage *DELETED* [Re: critik]
#445537 - 07/12/10 06:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#445636 - 07/12/10 09:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dang I see what you mean. But Still How long does the Ph suppose to stay balanced with FFOF?
I am sorry no one with more knowledge hasn't replied. But My last knowledge-less guess is that the mix of ferts you are using(Snow Storm Ultra,Liquid Karma,And Twice with FF Grow big) could be causing a Burn. I think I read somewhere mixing different ferts not made for each other can cause issues. But I don't know anything about ferts really. What do you think about that?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage *DELETED* [Re: critik]
#445649 - 07/12/10 09:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#445656 - 07/12/10 09:28 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mk soo they are ok to be added. Any what about the Ph how long does it suppose to stay balanced?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#445917 - 07/13/10 01:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doesn't look like Ozone damage which is understandable since you don't use ozone!
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: maryanne3087]
#446119 - 07/14/10 12:05 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Were on the plant is this occurring? Bottom, middle, top, all over?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: muse42]
#446356 - 07/14/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Too much N perhaps, Fox Farm soils are really hot. The middle pic looks like N toxicity if the leaves is as dark as it is in the photo.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#446363 - 07/14/10 05:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I,m Pretty sure it's not the soil,,,,Fox farm Ocean Forest was specifically designed for the use with cannabis.
Really? I'd like to know how one specifically designs a soil for use with cannabis.
I've grown cannabis in soil for around 20 years and find that any quality potting soil that is fortified to sustain the nutrient demands on cannabis will preform extremely well with cannabis so long as it's not made so rich as to burn the leaves. This can be achieved in a multitude of ways.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage *DELETED* [Re: maryanne3087]
#446414 - 07/14/10 07:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#446443 - 07/14/10 08:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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curbstop said:
Is there something I can dilute my soil with for my next grow Coda????
Perlite
Verm
Peatmoss
anything?
If so what do you recommend
all of thse woud be fine but,
whats wrong with dirt from the backyard?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: grod31]
#446461 - 07/14/10 09:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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bugs.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: maryanne3087]
#446480 - 07/14/10 09:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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pasteurize,its easier then making pancakes
i always call it dirt and my boy yells at me, it's soil man!
Take your selected "soil",put it in a pillowcase.Place this in the largest metal pot you have. Submerge in non chlorinated water.place a meat thermometer in and heat up to and keep at 145F-165F for 2 hours after that heat is reached. then pull ou the pillowcase. Then you could mix that with your FFOF or w/e is being used.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: grod31]
#446491 - 07/14/10 10:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Using fox farm provides a way to just dump, mix, and go pretty much. It's a great choice for soil if you can afford the price.
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If so what do you recommend
For ease of use I'd say buy a bag of light warrior and some extra perlite and use that. The light warrior is a soiless mix, mostly peat I believe, I enjoyed using it the few times I did.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: grod31]
#446501 - 07/14/10 10:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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grod31 said:
pasteurize,its easier then making pancakes
i always call it dirt and my boy yells at me, it's soil man!
Take your selected "soil",put it in a pillowcase.Place this in the largest metal pot you have. Submerge in non chlorinated water.place a meat thermometer in and heat up to and keep at 145F-165F for 2 hours after that heat is reached. then pull ou the pillowcase. Then you could mix that with your FFOF or w/e is being used.
Yeah, have fun mixing dirt from your yard with expensive soil bought from a nursery.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: maryanne3087]
#446552 - 07/15/10 03:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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yep thats what i do. I did it this year and i have done it
for many previous years.You don't remember that plants come out of the ground?
i guess not everyone can do that, i am just lucky enough to have soil that is 100% good enough to grow mj in. none of that clay or sand bulshit
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: grod31]
#446646 - 07/15/10 11:05 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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grod31 said:
yep thats what i do. I did it this year and i have done it
for many previous years.You don't remember that plants come out of the ground?
i guess not everyone can do that, i am just lucky enough to have soil that is 100% good enough to grow mj in. none of that clay or sand bulshit
If you want to call stringing up pillow cases of "100% good enough soil" and pasteurizing them instead of shelling out a few bucks for good quality soil lucky... have fun with that.
I'd rather shell out the $20 for 4.4 cu feet of ProMix amend it and I'm good to go.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: maryanne3087]
#446906 - 07/15/10 11:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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well my plants seem to love my backyard soil
where are your ProMix plants??
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: grod31]
#446908 - 07/16/10 12:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was just using promix as an example. I usually buy 30litre bags of good quality soil.
I usually use Promix outdoors but have used it indoors vegging plants before going outdoors.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: maryanne3087]
#447325 - 07/16/10 11:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find if using Fox Farm Ocean forest, with one transfer, that ferts during the first month are not needed. I don't fert till flowering. But then again I only VEG for 4 weeks
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: muse42]
#447503 - 07/17/10 10:50 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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you flower for 4 weeks? wtf?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: coda]
#447506 - 07/17/10 10:52 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Busted for posting high last night. Take me away officer 
It has been edited
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: muse42]
#447508 - 07/17/10 10:54 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha I was gonna say, you holding out on the community with a 4 week finisher?!?!? 
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage *DELETED* [Re: coda]
#447699 - 07/17/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#447703 - 07/17/10 09:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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brown spotted leaves = Mn or K deficiency? Deficiencies can also be caused from lockout so maybe a flush could be in order.
N burn literally makes the leaf tips look burnt.
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#447707 - 07/17/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#447782 - 07/18/10 12:31 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think mine are starting to do the same thing and I have suspected them have N overdose for a while now. I have some very dark leaves in the middle and at the bottom. I keep looking for some bug action but nothing?
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: muse42]
#447850 - 07/18/10 09:01 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Coda say's its N burn.
Actually I said it looks like N toxicity. Problem is an over load of nitrogen will lead to a lockout of K which will will then rip through your fan leaves and kill them off.
Dealing with a straight deficiency is easy since all your plant wants is more food. Dealing with a lockout is slightly different. In this case if the nutrient is being locked out, IE not absorbed, feeding it more just exacerbates the problem. Since the plant can not not uptake the nutes it needs feeding it more wont help, first you need to "unlock" the root system so the plant can absorb what it needs again.
So you need to go through a good flush and let your plant use up the excess N and then supplement a feeding or two of something with a high P/K ratio. The brown spots won't repair, but once you unlock your plant and start feeding it what it wants you won't see any new damage.
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage *DELETED* [Re: coda]
#447858 - 07/18/10 09:31 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#447886 - 07/18/10 11:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Last two watering's I have used straight distilled water and watered until approximately %30 of the water used went out the bottom of the container. is this enough or should I do more?
A solid flush involves watering your plant with three times the volume of your container of water. So, if you have a 1 gallon container, 3 gallons of water poured through it would be a solid flush. I don't know where THC got that little bit over a course of a day, I've always done the whole thing at once. Water until the container is about to overflow, then let it drain, and repeat until all water is finished.
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or are you suggesting to mix the LW with my FFOF.
^^This
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#447887 - 07/18/10 11:38 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#447912 - 07/18/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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go heavier on the soiless stuff maybe a 60/40 or 70/30 mix of LW/Perlite to FFOF
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Re: Looks like Ozone Damage [Re: curbstop]
#447925 - 07/18/10 01:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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curbstop said:
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maryanne3087 said:
brown spotted leaves = Mn or K deficiency? Deficiencies can also be caused from lockout so maybe a flush could be in order.
N burn literally makes the leaf tips look burnt.
Like this,,,If so all my plant's leave tips look like this.
I didn't notice that, coda is most likely spot on with N toxicity the very dark green foliage is a give away also. I'd hazard to guess you have an Mn or K deficiency possibly from getting locked out from the excessive N as Coda mentioned. I've had N burn before and as far as I can recall never followed by Mn or K deficiencies.
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