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Re: Need a job? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #444504 - 07/10/10 11:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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You're right, I'm gonna quit smoking marijuana until its legal, you've shown me the error of my ways.




I only care about the legality of it because I understand
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a nation has the obligation to restrict and monitor the flow of people moving into and out of a country




They however neither have the right to prohibit marijuana, nor do they have any legitimate reason.


That's like comparing an apple to an orange. Just because they are both fruit (Read: Illegal) does not mean they are the same thing (In this care Immigration law VS prohibition).


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Re: Need a job? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #444506 - 07/10/10 11:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

To you perhaps, but from their point of view, our immigration laws are oppressing them.

Think a little more globally, like our one world government.

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Re: Need a job? [Re: citizen13]
    #444507 - 07/10/10 11:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I hope you don't, because your opinion isn't wanted in a conversation about immigration when you act like a hippy and go "boarders don't matter."


When you have a valid opinion you're welcome to join in.


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Re: Need a job? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #444511 - 07/10/10 11:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You're right, lets relocate a bunch of college educated people to the south west to toil in the heat and soil for shit pay, BAM!

Country fixed.

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Re: Need a job? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #444513 - 07/10/10 11:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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To you perhaps, but from their point of view, our immigration laws are oppressing them.

Think a little more globally, like our one world government.




And to my point of view it isn't their right to come here. It is up to America (as a government) to decide who can and who can't be in their borders.

Why don't they fix the country they come from (wherever that may be), instead of come over here and knowingly breaking the law.


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Re: Need a job? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #444514 - 07/10/10 11:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Because even if it's against the law, they face no actual consequences.

So why not? :confused:

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Re: Need a job? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #444517 - 07/10/10 11:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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You're right, lets relocate a bunch of college educated people to the south west to toil in the heat and sun for shit pay, BAM!

Country fixed.




It's at least minimum wage. :shrug:





I don't have the solution, just stating it is a problem.


Also, I'd be fine with it. If it wasn't for the fact my family is forcing me to get a degree.

Otherwise I'd be working in a factory at this point in my life. I'm cool with 10 bucks or so an hour, that's a ton of money to me :shrug:

I made $5.85 (minimum wage) at my first job and was fine with that.


Man, I forgot how low minimum wage was like 3 years ago.


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Re: Need a job? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #444520 - 07/10/10 11:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Because even if it's against the law, they face no actual consequences.

So why not? :confused:




I know, that's a big :facepalm: for the US government in my opinion.


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Re: Need a job? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #444521 - 07/10/10 11:43 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, there is no real solution to the problem. You have the right to be outraged by the governments inaction, but the problems such a political clusterfuck I doubt anything satisfactory is going to happen to stem the illegal immigration.

I'm guessing our president is going to grant amnesty to illegal aliens to win in 2012.

Even if its fucked up, its too late to be outraged now.

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Re: Need a job? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #444523 - 07/10/10 11:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Man I'm done with the immigration discussion for now yo, it gives me a fucking headache every time.


The system is fucked, and it will be a long time until it is fixed.


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Re: Need a job? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #444524 - 07/10/10 11:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, there is no real solution to the problem. You have the right to be outraged by the governments inaction, but the problems such a political clusterfuck I doubt anything satisfactory is going to happen to stem the illegal immigration.

I'm guessing our president is going to grant amnesty to illegal aliens to win in 2012.

Even if its fucked up, its too late to be outraged now.




If he does I'll fucking lose all faith in him.


Mainly because I watched him speak last week or so and say that granting amnesty to illegal aliens, would not only reward those breaking the law, bust also be spitting in the face of all those waiting to get here legally. (but in different words).

Maaaan, I can see immigration, alternative energy, and legalization being the main focus of next years debate topics. :facepalm:


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Re: Need a job? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #444528 - 07/10/10 11:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The shitty economy takes every issues and supercharges it into crazy extremes.

It may not be called amnesty, but its gonna be like buying your way into the country.

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Re: Need a job? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #444530 - 07/10/10 11:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The Dream Act?


Cus I'm in total support of that.


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