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Need a job?
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Want to work in Cali?
take their jobs.
Idk if anyone is actually in dire need of work, but if you are it's better than nothing. ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
I'm honestly curious if America would work those jobs. If it weren't for the whole "me not working because we would lose money if I did" thing I would.
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i think i might do it, but not for a while. i saw this on the colbert report though
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Re: Need a job? [Re: iStoner]
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I'd work on a farm if they didn't pay me unfair wages like they do the mexicans. I would pick fruit for a living if it payed more that $15 an hour with a full paid lunch and 15 min breaks ever 2 hours and safe work conditions. This is why they hire illegals.
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Steve Buscemi said: I'd work on a farm if they didn't pay me unfair wages like they do the mexicans. I would pick fruit for a living if it payed more that $15 an hour with a full paid lunch and 15 min breaks ever 2 hours and safe work conditions. This is why they hire illegals.
Well they have to pay you at least minimum.
Otherwise YOU could call the government over it.
You are a US citizen so you are guaranteed minimum wage.
If they pay you diff you can get the farmer in deep shit I'd assume.
That's what I would do, and report every illegal I met.
I'd be cool with all the legal peeps though.
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The last two reply to this thread are :lulz:
If they paid everyone as well as that, how much would our produce cost?
I don't even want to touch the logic in your post.
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If they paid everyone as well as that, how much would our produce cost?
I don't even want to touch the logic in your post.
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<saying its ok not to pay minimum wage in the united states.
Can you please keep your trolling out of my smoke lounge threads?
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If they paid everyone as well as that, how much would our produce cost?
I don't even want to touch the logic in your post.
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<saying its ok not to pay minimum wage in the united states.
Can you please keep your trolling out of my smoke lounge threads?
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That's what I would do, and report every illegal I met.
I'd be cool with all the legal peeps though.
No you wouldn't. Illogical thought.
This kind of thinking is part of the overall problem. People who are so disconnected from the situation, who don't bother to be properly informed, just passing their ill advised judgments like they actually make sense.
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I'm not misinformed, I know they cant pay workers that well and that is why I'm not a fruit picker. Unlike me (a former union meat cutter) mexicans will do it for way under minimum wage. My point is after being paid $10 -$20 hourly for an awful job as a unionized meat cutter with decent benefits...... I could never go pick fruit and get paid $4 an hour to be treated like a slave, the industry could actually afford to pay americans a liveable wage but I dont think many want the job.
I'm pretty stoned hope that makes sense, if not I'll try again tomorrow.
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Thebooedocksaint said: Want to work in Cali?
take their jobs.
Idk if anyone is actually in dire need of work, but if you are it's better than nothing. ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
I'm honestly curious if America would work those jobs. If it weren't for the whole "me not working because we would lose money if I did" thing I would.
wait can i actually get a job if i fill that out or is it just a way for them to fill up my email box with their political beliefs?
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Re: Need a job? [Re: citizen13]
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Naw, I'm pretty sure you will be able to experience the luxury of being an illegal immigrant. 100 degree weather with 16 hour working days, and all the free strawberries you could eat.
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DungenessDank said: Naw, I'm pretty sure you will be able to experience the luxury of being an illegal immigrant. 100 degree weather with 16 hour working days, and all the free strawberries you could eat.
And if they don't pay you minimum wage it's completely within your rights to bust them.
Also if you work overtime they have to pay you overtime.
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That's what I would do, and report every illegal I met.
I'd be cool with all the legal peeps though.
No you wouldn't. Illogical thought.
This kind of thinking is part of the overall problem. People who are so disconnected from the situation, who don't bother to be properly informed, just passing their ill advised judgments like they actually make sense.
How is that illogical?
Well me, what is wrong with me reporting every single illegal immigrant I meet?
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Because their cousins will leave you face down in a ditch when you start deporting their entire families. Its obvious you haven't had much real life experience with our "friends" from south of the border.
About wages, I'm sure these people (If you look you can see this website is actually put up by United Farm Workers, who negotiates the contracts/wages for their union members before they begin a job) are getting paid decently, compared to minimum wage.
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About wages, I'm sure these people (If you look you can see this website is actually put up by United Farm Workers, who negotiates the contracts/wages for their union members before they begin a job) are getting paid decently, compared to minimum wage.
Well if their cousins are going to be little bitches whatever, I'm just saying I'd do my civic duty.
They don't belong here, so I'd do everything I could to get them out. IMO illegal imagrents should be put to death, but that would never happen. ![:facepalm: :facepalm:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/facepalm.gif)
I mean what right do they have to be in the land America stole from them? THAT'S OUR LAND NOW BITCH!
God, I really hate illegals.
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wow you value human life so little you would kill someone because they crossed an imaginary line illegally?
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At this point they are an essential part of our economy, I don't think they do much more good for us than bad, but they are here to stay.
Keep in mind there are many individuals who are Mexican's, but are legally here on a work permit. Not where I come from of course, but down south.
I know some illegal immigrants who have their own homes, families, and are making 40k+ a year working for local companies. 10-20 years ago when they came to this country, they were nothing but cheap labor to be exploited, but over the years, they have made lives for themselves here, and I can respect that.
They have become so essential as part of our local businesses, that they go on strike from time to time to demand higher wages, and within the day they go on strike, they get the raise.
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citizen13 said: wow you value human life so little you would kill someone because they crossed an imaginary line illegally?
It's not imaginary, it is a very real boundary between two nations. And if you don't understand a nation has the obligation to restrict and monitor the flow of people moving into and out of a country, then you're not worth talking to.
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They have become so essential as part of our local businesses, that they go on strike from time to time to demand higher wages, and within the day they go on strike, they get the raise.
But they essentially just "cut in line" in front of all the immigrants who are waiting to enter the country, and gain citizenship legally. That I can't respect at all.
I wouldn't have any beef with them if they were here legally.
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You're right, I'm gonna quit smoking marijuana until its legal, you've shown me the error of my ways.
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It's not imaginary, it is a very real boundary between two nations. And if you don't understand a nation has the obligation to restrict and monitor the flow of people moving into and out of a country, then you're not worth talking to.
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DungenessDank said: I know some illegal immigrants who have their own homes, families, and are making 40k+ a year working for local companies. 10-20 years ago when they came to this country, they were nothing but cheap labor to be exploited, but over the years, they have made lives for themselves here, and I can respect that.
They have become so essential as part of our local businesses, that they go on strike from time to time to demand higher wages, and within the day they go on strike, they get the raise.
But they essentially just "cut in line" in front of all the immigrants who are waiting to enter the country, and gain citizenship legally. That I can't respect at all.
I wouldn't have any beef with them if they were here legally.
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DungenessDank said: You're right, I'm gonna quit smoking marijuana until its legal, you've shown me the error of my ways.
I only care about the legality of it because I understand Quote:
a nation has the obligation to restrict and monitor the flow of people moving into and out of a country
They however neither have the right to prohibit marijuana, nor do they have any legitimate reason.
That's like comparing an apple to an orange. Just because they are both fruit (Read: Illegal) does not mean they are the same thing (In this care Immigration law VS prohibition).
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To you perhaps, but from their point of view, our immigration laws are oppressing them.
Think a little more globally, like our one world government.
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Re: Need a job? [Re: citizen13]
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I hope you don't, because your opinion isn't wanted in a conversation about immigration when you act like a hippy and go "boarders don't matter."
When you have a valid opinion you're welcome to join in.
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You're right, lets relocate a bunch of college educated people to the south west to toil in the heat and soil for shit pay, BAM!
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DungenessDank said: To you perhaps, but from their point of view, our immigration laws are oppressing them.
Think a little more globally, like our one world government.
And to my point of view it isn't their right to come here. It is up to America (as a government) to decide who can and who can't be in their borders.
Why don't they fix the country they come from (wherever that may be), instead of come over here and knowingly breaking the law.
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Because even if it's against the law, they face no actual consequences.
So why not?
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DungenessDank said: You're right, lets relocate a bunch of college educated people to the south west to toil in the heat and sun for shit pay, BAM!
Country fixed.
It's at least minimum wage. ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
I don't have the solution, just stating it is a problem.
Also, I'd be fine with it. If it wasn't for the fact my family is forcing me to get a degree.
Otherwise I'd be working in a factory at this point in my life. I'm cool with 10 bucks or so an hour, that's a ton of money to me ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
I made $5.85 (minimum wage) at my first job and was fine with that.
Man, I forgot how low minimum wage was like 3 years ago.
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So why not? ![:confused: :confused:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/confused.gif)
I know, that's a big for the US government in my opinion.
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Yeah, there is no real solution to the problem. You have the right to be outraged by the governments inaction, but the problems such a political clusterfuck I doubt anything satisfactory is going to happen to stem the illegal immigration.
I'm guessing our president is going to grant amnesty to illegal aliens to win in 2012.
Even if its fucked up, its too late to be outraged now.
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Man I'm done with the immigration discussion for now yo, it gives me a fucking headache every time.
The system is fucked, and it will be a long time until it is fixed.
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I'm guessing our president is going to grant amnesty to illegal aliens to win in 2012.
Even if its fucked up, its too late to be outraged now.
If he does I'll fucking lose all faith in him.
Mainly because I watched him speak last week or so and say that granting amnesty to illegal aliens, would not only reward those breaking the law, bust also be spitting in the face of all those waiting to get here legally. (but in different words).
Maaaan, I can see immigration, alternative energy, and legalization being the main focus of next years debate topics.
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The shitty economy takes every issues and supercharges it into crazy extremes.
It may not be called amnesty, but its gonna be like buying your way into the country.
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The Dream Act?
Cus I'm in total support of that.
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