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yellownotepad
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underwater growing
#441737 - 07/04/10 01:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i can't find any definitive answers, so i'm trying it.
put a nicely rooted blue dream clone into a 20 gallon aquarium. the aquatic plant that lives in there has thrived on the fish waste, so lets see if little cannabis can survive underwater.
oh and i used a blue dream clone, just because you know the name is fitting and all.
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yellownotepad
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better photo!
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I'll be honest with ya. I don't think she'll make it.
I mean CO2? Lighting? Oxygen? Nutrients?
Just because a Pine tree can survive in the arctic doesn't mean a cannabis plant can too. Same logic with water.
I hope I'm wrong though. Underwater dank would be sick.
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I fucking love you for doing this.
I have always wondered if it was possible and even if its not this is still the best post I have seen this month/year.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: T-Rex]
#441749 - 07/04/10 02:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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P.S nice Tiger Barbs, make sure your fish don't get at the plant man. But it looks like you have a fresh water tropical tank like me so it should be sweet.
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Maybe I should get my scuba gear ready.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: KaptKid]
#441752 - 07/04/10 11:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol you gona flower that thing in there too? What would the wet weight be on that!
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Lucid]
#441759 - 07/04/10 11:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its not gonna live more than a few days.... but snap up heaps of pics for the lols
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Re: underwater growing [Re: juke adro]
#441766 - 07/04/10 11:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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pretty crazy idea, i mean common sense tells me that it wont work, but w/e still kinda cool. waste of blue dream tho.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: juke adro]
#441771 - 07/04/10 11:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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juke adro said: Its not gonna live more than a few days.... but snap up heaps of pics for the lols
yeah haha, it wont live for long My friend even tried it before and it lasted like 2-3 days before it got limp and slimy.
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I wonder if there's potential for it surviving if you bubbled a good amount of air across the plant and provided adequate lighting. My guess is that water surface tension would mostly prevent the plant from absorbing any CO2, but
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yellownotepad
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Re: underwater growing [Re: God]
#441833 - 07/04/10 02:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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God said: I wonder if there's potential for it surviving if you bubbled a good amount of air across the plant and provided adequate lighting. My guess is that water surface tension would mostly prevent the plant from absorbing any CO2, but
good idea! i'll dig out an air pump and airstones and stick em so the bubbles are hitting the foliage as much as possible
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Fuck yes.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: God]
#441841 - 07/04/10 03:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm just waiting for Harry to come in here and pull some crazy Science and all of us.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Inverted]
#441959 - 07/04/10 10:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, make sure there is no algae growing in there man
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maryanne3087
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I'm going to assume the roots won't receive enough oxygen and I'm also going to assume the plant won't have any way to transpire water/exchange gases as the stomata are meant to be be dry in terrestrial plants.
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yellownotepad
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maryanne3087 said: I'm going to assume the roots won't receive enough oxygen and I'm also going to assume the plant won't have any way to transpire water/exchange gases as the stomata are meant to be be dry in terrestrial plants.
i agree, but its still alive and perky. the water is fairly oxygenated, i'd say just as good as any DWC or recirculating DWC - it is constantly agitated and aerated by a waterfall
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maryanne3087
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It doesn't look as aerated as this DWC see 2mins on. Granted your pictures aren't video but even a still would show bubbles
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Quote:
yellownotepad said:
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maryanne3087 said: I'm going to assume the roots won't receive enough oxygen and I'm also going to assume the plant won't have any way to transpire water/exchange gases as the stomata are meant to be be dry in terrestrial plants.
It is going to die. As has been stated before if marijuana was meant to grow underwater that is what it would be naturally doing.
But kudos for trying it at least.
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Dr. Siekadellyk said:it got limp and slimy.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: RasJeph]
#442571 - 07/06/10 06:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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holy shit maryanne that vid up there is QUITE a nice setup!
VERY NICE!
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Forgive my lack of knowledge here...and, I'm just kinda spitballing on this...but would an air-stone help it at all?
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Re: underwater growing [Re: RasJeph]
#442622 - 07/06/10 07:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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ras jeph, i doubt that anybody cares or will hold it against u asking that question, and i HIGHLY doubt anybody really has any knowledge on growing weed underwater, because nobodys stupid enough to waste a beatiful weed plant trying it, except this kid of course.
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I know, I know. I just hate when I hear people spouting off at the mouth full of bullshit facts, so when I make a post, I always like to include a disclaimer that most of my knowledge is either limited, or through reading other peoples experiences
You know, just on the off chance someone decides to take my advice word for word
And hey...if you've got it, why not try new things I guess. I know people who throw away clones from their mothers to keep them trimmed down. Hell, if they could stick them in their fish tank and grow em, fuck yeah!
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Re: underwater growing [Re: RasJeph]
#442724 - 07/06/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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maryanne3087 said: It doesn't look as aerated as this DWC see 2mins on. Granted your pictures aren't video but even a still would show bubbles
Ridiculous.
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yellownotepad
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cicken200 said: ras jeph, i doubt that anybody cares or will hold it against u asking that question, and i HIGHLY doubt anybody really has any knowledge on growing weed underwater, because nobodys stupid enough to waste a beatiful weed plant trying it, except this kid of course.
you wouldn't understand and thats ok because you're new. when you have several hundred clones which are going in the trash because you've already got your rooms filled, sticking a clone in the aquarium out of curiosity is really no big deal.
for someone who built their first DWC a month ago, you seem to have very strong opinions about what i'm doing with my spare clones. now go tend to your phototron and keep your negative opinions to yourself.
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its weed not sea weed.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Shaggy420]
#443541 - 07/08/10 04:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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because nobodys stupid enough to waste a beatiful weed plant trying it,
Lol i just threw out about 200 perfectly good clones. Who gives a fuck about wasting one? It takes all of about two weeks before you have more to choose from. I've probably thrown away more good cuttings then I've flowered, it just doesn't matter if you have a mother plant.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: coda]
#443702 - 07/08/10 07:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh didnt realize u had so many clones. why cut them off the mother plant if ur gonna throw em out?
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cicken200 said: oh didnt realize u had so many clones. why cut them off the mother plant if ur gonna throw em out?
To keep it down sized bro. If you only cut the clones you were planning on using, you'd have a TREE for a mother. And nobody has room for that!
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Re: underwater growing [Re: RasJeph]
#444210 - 07/09/10 04:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^ Exactly, in fact the size I'm keeping my moms at right now is way too large for the amount of clones I need. So I'll probably clone the moms and trash them and start again with the fresh cuttings.
Every two weeks I do a small trim to keep the plant from growing into the lights, and every other month I usually take a hedge trimmer to them and hack them down heavily. It's just basic maintenance that needs to be done otherwise you'll have a jungle in your veg cab before you know it.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: coda]
#444232 - 07/09/10 05:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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how much can you cut them back without seriously harming the plant?
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Shaggy420]
#444237 - 07/09/10 05:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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TrippyStoner420 said: how much can you cut them back without seriously harming the plant?
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=1&Number=165584&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
Also talks about cutting back roots.
Weed is such a hardy plant.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: KaptKid]
#444245 - 07/09/10 06:12 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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awesome, i need to save that article
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Shaggy420]
#444345 - 07/09/10 09:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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TrippyStoner420 said: its weed not sea weed.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Dankenstein]
#445805 - 07/13/10 09:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I take it that his underwater weed died?
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445807 - 07/13/10 09:48 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guess I need to put my scuba tanks back in the closet.
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yellownotepad
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445897 - 07/13/10 12:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jeff Funk said: So I take it that his underwater weed died?
not yet
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Pics?
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Re: underwater growing *DELETED* [Re: T-Rex]
#446381 - 07/14/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by cicken200Reason for deletion: so this dude'l stop bitchin
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yellownotepad
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Quote:
cicken200 said: phototron phototron? blah blah blah...
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Re: underwater growing *DELETED* [Re: yellownotepad]
#446685 - 07/15/10 12:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by cicken200Reason for deletion: so this dude'l stop bitchin
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maryanne3087
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Phototrons are pretty badass in my opinion. I grew with one for fun. I would never hate on anyone for using one. 400w lights are nothing to brag about though.
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Re: underwater growing *DELETED* [Re: maryanne3087]
#446723 - 07/15/10 01:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by cicken200Reason for deletion: so this dude'l stop bitchin
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cicken200 said: guess what fag all im using the phototron for is clones. i got my plants under my 400w. u just wish u could afford one, broke ass.
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cicken200 said: im not braggin im just tellin that kid to shut his mouth, i'm not even growing with my tron.
This useless flaming and trolling isn't needed here.
YNP is using much more than a 400, and has many grows under his belt, just so you know.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Stoneth]
#446733 - 07/15/10 02:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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my b. there. wtf is flaming and trolling? i aint no trol, don't be gettin shit twisted
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Following a member around with useless comments just to harass them and name calling is in fact flaming and trolling.
Not to mention how silly you make yourself look when talking shit about someone you know nothing about to start with.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Stoneth]
#446873 - 07/15/10 10:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn i believe i threw this idea out there a little while back; Sick with it more power to ya!
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Re: underwater growing [Re: 114425]
#446910 - 07/16/10 12:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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snails been eating the leaves, ill try and snap a photo when i have a chance. wasnt the water that killed it, so we'll never know the results
on a related note, if anyone knows how to get rid of those little snails that infest tropical aquariums, please tell me
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Copper is lethal to inverts.
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You need to get some clown loaches man
I used to have a horrible snail problem, then I got 3 Loaches and haven't seen one since
Alternatively if you don't want any more fish then you can just squish them up against the glass and your fish will eat the remains. Or I'm sure your local aquarium has some stuff that would help
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Re: underwater growing [Re: T-Rex]
#446920 - 07/16/10 12:37 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Him being a grower it would be easiest to find whatever nutrient contains the most copper and dose the tank a little. Doesn't take much copper at all to kill snails.
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maryanne3087 said: Him being a grower it would be easiest to find whatever nutrient contains the most copper and dose the tank a little. Doesn't take much copper at all to kill snails.
That's probably true but I would never pour chemicals into my tank on the idea it will only kill one species, tanks are expensive to obtain and build up and to even keep running. And that's a bit of a risk in my book
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well i've got 7 tiger barbs, an emerald green cory, and a chocolate albino pleco. so i dont think loaches would be a wise addition to the community. plus its only a 20gal tank so i'm pretty much at capacity.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: T-Rex]
#446924 - 07/16/10 12:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Plus Loaches feed on snails in the wild so they love that shit.
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Yea you might be able to get away with one loach in there for a little bit but not much else, plus Clown Loaches get rather large so probably not the best idea
I have 3 peppered Cory's, 3 Bristle nose Pleco's, 3 Clown Loaches, a large Featherfin catfish, 4 large blue Gourami's and 4 Thomas eye chichlids in my 200L tank and its pretty near capacity.
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Re: underwater growing [Re: Inverted]
#447070 - 07/16/10 12:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha. Maybe not you.
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yellownotepad said: i've got 7 tiger barbs, an emerald green cory, and a chocolate albino pleco.
hahaha u know how i kno ur gay
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turtles will also eat snails
-------------------- They call them fingers but I never see them fing... Oh wait, there they go.
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Doo Yoo Hookah???
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 13,464
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By ho he has his dick up your ass??
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
Edited by Hawksresurrection (07/17/10 09:38 AM)
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fungi
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 168
Loc: Silicon Sizzle, CA USA
Last seen: 14 years, 2 months
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Damn internet bitch fight! Let's hear some more of the psychological / verbal abuse so accustomed to female television shows. Damn it's fun seeing the feminine side of things sometimes. Got to watch out for that marijuana, damn sure makes me feel like a pussy 90% of the time.
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maryanne3087
Stranger
Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 1,111
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Quote:
hawksapprentice said:
By ho he has his dick up your ass??
What are you going on about?
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Magash
The Feminizer
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 6,634
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Cool idea, but the thread got stupid.
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