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 Lacombe Grown
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 600 or 1000? 
#438991 - 06/28/10 05:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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under the law im allowed to grow 7 plants . figured i'd grow them pretty big since i have the room . should i go with the 1000 or the 6? and should i get the mh/hps or just the hps with fluros for veg? thanks
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 Harry_Ba11sach
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Well if you're planning on going pretty big then the 1000 is your only real option. If you have the room and money for separate veg/flower rooms then I'd go with a nice T5 for veg and the 1KW HPS for flower. Or ya know, like 15,000W in flower and 300 plants, but that's just a suggestion.
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Lacombe Grown
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ya but i think i can only 7 plants or something like along those lines under nevadas laws so i was just wondering should i get the 1000 if im only gunna have a few plants under it. even if they are huge would it make a big different n yield? thanks and the 1000 converterable mh /hps . would mh be as good as t5?
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KaptKid
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1000 watt MH, much better than a T5.
You legal growers are so lucky.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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well it depends, huge as in tall then yes absolutely get the 1000, huge as in wide then you'll be fine with the 600. But quite frankly if you can afford it then go with the 1000, you definitely won't be disappointed
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Lacombe Grown
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lol thanks alot man i know im so stoked just got the temp card today 1000 wat hps/mh it is thanks alot guys. should i just stick with foxfarm soil? any strain suggestions? the shops have clones another thing im excited about . taller>wider ? yield wise? like i said space is not an option i have a open bedroom with nothing in it . thanks i love the growery/shroomery.
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Lacombe Grown
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also i was just lookin at the 1000w's on ebay what ballast should i get the switchable one or the digital one there around the same price thanks
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KaptKid
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Lunatek digital, can run on 120/240, also can set to 600,750, 1000 watt and super bright(not real name). Very quite.
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maryanne3087
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Re: 600 or 1000? [Re: KaptKid]
#439231 - 06/29/10 10:54 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If I only had 7 plants I think I'd go with 2 x 600 vs a single 1000.
You need to keep the height of the plants down as much as possible I've always been told 600w's are best for SoG or plants that are 2' tall and 1000w's are best for plants that are 4' tall it seems there's some sort of grey area where they are more equally matched.
You should be able to train some nice 6oz monsters.
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Tektonic
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yea, i'm currently using 2x 600, instead of 1x 1000
light hitting from more angles is what i'm after
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Lucid
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Re: 600 or 1000? [Re: Tektonic]
#439261 - 06/29/10 11:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tektonic said:
yea, i'm currently using 2x 600, instead of 1x 1000
light hitting from more angles is what i'm after
I agree, go with the 2 600's you will get better light coverage and get the bushes you want not just tall trees.
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phantom
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Re: 600 or 1000? [Re: Lucid]
#439285 - 06/29/10 12:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also agree 2 x 600w would be a glorious investment. Plump, juicy, ripe ass buds all around...
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maryanne3087
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Re: 600 or 1000? [Re: Tektonic]
#439288 - 06/29/10 12:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tektonic said:
yea, i'm currently using 2x 600, instead of 1x 1000
light hitting from more angles is what i'm after
closer to the plant tops is also easier to achieve with 600s.
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Lacombe Grown
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what yields more? i could grow them 6ft. if i wanted but i gues i could just get more clones after i harvest so 2 600 hundreds huh. would it make that much of a difference because there really isnt much of a price difference between a 6 and 1000 and should i go thru ebay? are the light kits on there worth getting . thanks again
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maryanne3087
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600w's are said to produce 11% more light per watt. They produce less heat which makes it easier to get them closer to the tops of your plants which also in turn makes them yield more in comparison to those further away. 1000w's are good for 4+' tall plants as they have more light penetration.
600w's would require you to train your plants more to keep height down compared to 1000w's but overall yield better per energy used.
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coda
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Two 600 watt lights will provide better canopy coverage, but will produce less canopy penetration then a 1000 watt light. So that means the tops of your plants will receive the most light, but any bud sites below the top of the canopy will receive drastically reduced light levels.
Personally I would go with the two 600s. However, if you have the cash and desire, fuck the 600's and get two 1000 watt lights. It sounds like you have the space for it, so again if cash is not much of an issue I would look into that.
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DoPeYsMuRf
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When your making a 300 dollar investment, whats an extra 70 bucks to make it a 1000 watter?
2- 600 watters would be a shitpot more money than just 1- 1000 watt.
1000 watt makes buds more dense. I have 1000 watt.
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Tektonic
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Re: 600 or 1000? [Re: coda]
#439419 - 06/29/10 06:25 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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2x 1000 is the way to go if that is an option, just make sure your panel can support the load
that's why i could only go 1000 or 2x 600, not enough amps for 2x 1000 here, and i'm not trying to start a fire
the best nugs i've ever seen were grown under 10x 1000w, they were 6ft tall with 3 weeks left! i wish i could go that big
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Lacombe Grown
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Re: 600 or 1000? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#439425 - 06/29/10 06:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats what i was thinkn smurf i can always get another one later on im just gunna get the 1000 hps/mh im sure my 7 plants will get plenty of light and maybe after my first harvest ill throw another one in there if im not satisfied. no comments on buying from ebay? i appreciate all the input guys figured id holla at yall before i made an investment thanks a bunch. should i go with soil? and why wouldnt i beable to run 2 1000's?
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DieselB
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As far as buying from Ebay, depends on what you wanna spend.. If you're looking for cheap, HTG is the lowest I would go, they have good prices and still carry a 5 year warranty on their digital ballasts. Anything cheaper or with less name recognition than them I wouldn't trust.
You should do some research on pros and cons of using soil vs hydro, it will help you make a better, more informed decision on what is gonna work best for you. Personally, I would suggest hydro, because it can be done for the same or less money, and is usually a little more productive.
The only problems you would encounter running two 1k lights is the heat created, you're gonna need a good bit of air moving to keep 2k watts cool. I would recommend air cooled hoods and a 450-550cfm fan blowing through them.
The other problem, is most house circuits are 15 amps, meaning you don't want to exceed about 1500w total of continuous usage. So you either need two dedicated lines off the box ran to your grow area, or you could use a drop cord from another room for one light. If you were to do that, you must make sure the outlet you are pulling from is not wired on the same circuit as the grow room. There are many half ass electricians out there that will run a couple rooms and sometimes more on one 15a circuit. Also, the shorter the cord the better, and make sure it's rated for whatever load you will be placing on it.
Basically, pay attention, look at labels, find out what kind of draw everything is pulling and then you know how much to place on any given circuit. Be anal about it, don't cut ANY corners when it comes to this aspect of the hobby. Otherwise you'll end up with a pile of char and ash for a home, and when the fire marshall inspects, you're also gonna get charged for cannabis cultivation, and probably more.
EDIT: NVM, looks like you are cultivating legally, but they would drum some charges up if you were at fault for the fire.
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Edited by DieselB (06/29/10 07:44 PM)
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