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 vilnius
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 Need help idetntifying problems 
#419491 - 05/17/10 10:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is my first grow and I am having difficulty identifying these problems:
1. Pictures bellow – Hindu Skunk in flower week 4. Everything looked great until one branch on one plant, after starting to develop buds, leaves suddenly discolored and pistils turned black. It almost appears like a seed pods but they are not – these are buds without pistils. I flushed and so far no improvement.
    
2. Pictures bellow – White Widow in veg. After 3 weeks, it suddenly started looking strange. I flushed and changed to PH adjusted R/O water but no improvement. As you may notice in the pictures, new growth looks grayish/yellowish and not healthy. Older leaves are “clawing“, became very narrow and dark. None of the leaves turned yellow nor died.
  
3. Picture bellow – Kushage in flower week 4. While buds are looking good all leaves on the entire plant look just like in the picture.
I grow hydroponically with 4-phase R/O water in 6” Rockwool cubes:
Veg - 24 hour T-5 fluorescent light, 73-79 F and 50-70% humidity, PH 5.8 - AN Sensi Grow A&B, H2, Hygrozyme, SM-90, Dark Energy.
Flower 1000 Hortilux HID light ducted and vented, CO2 enrichment, 72-80 F and humidity 50% and spikes up to 65-70% at “dark” time, PH 5.8 – AN Sensi Bloom A&B, H2, Big Bud, Cal-Mag, Phospoload (once in 4th week) and Overdrive (final 2 weeks).
Feeding twice every 12 hours for 10 minutes.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Re: Need help idetntifying problems [Re: vilnius]
#419564 - 05/18/10 12:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm going to post here to remind me to try to help you. I'm at the hospital right now but when I'm done I'll try to get you some answers if someone else doesnt drop by
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419720 - 05/18/10 10:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you mhbound. I hope you feel better soon and I look forward to your feedback.
Edited by vilnius (05/18/10 10:29 AM)
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mhbound
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: vilnius]
#419724 - 05/18/10 10:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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what size pots are they in? im kind of at a loss for words as to the problems..i just have a feeling its something that minor seeing that its doing it to every plant.
did you transplant them before flowering? or did you transplant them while they were flowering?
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419731 - 05/18/10 10:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i almost want to say its a nitrogen problem..and the dark plant a potassium problem possibly
hmm...its like the roots have locked out the nutrients or something for some reason...
what kind of pH meter are you using?
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419737 - 05/18/10 10:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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and did you test the pH after or before you added the nutrient solution to the water?
also soil pH? if you already said sorry i forgot the first post
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419747 - 05/18/10 10:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The white widow looks like a P overdose.
By the way Vilnius, please fill out this form:
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Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What type of hydro system are you using?
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
14. How close are your lights to the plants?
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
18. How much experience do you have growing?
I think you may get more responses.
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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: TomCollins]
#419992 - 05/18/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. Are you growing from seed or clones? - clones
2. How old are your plants? – Hindu skunk – 4 weeks in flower; White Widow – 4 weeks in veg; Kushage 6 weeks in flower.
3. How tall are your plants? Hindu Skunk – 2 feet; White Widow – 1 foot; Kushage – 4 feet.
4. What type of hydro system are you using? – 6 inch rockwool cubes in veg and in flower 3 foot rockwool slabs under the 6 inch cubes. 15 gal per tray with water pump on a timer to feed 10 min. every 12 hours.
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using? Veg 15 gal -- Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow A&B
Week 1 - EC 1.14/PH 5.8
Sensi Grow A&B - 70 ml each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 55 ml
Hygrozyme - 100 ml
SM-90 - 30 ml
Dark Energy - 35 ml
Week 2 - EC 1.42/PH 5.8
Sensi Grow A&B - 95 ml each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 55 ml
Hygrozyme - 100 ml
SM-90 - 30 ml
Dark Energy - 35 ml
Week 3 - EC 1.57/PH 5.8
Sensi Grow A&B - 110 ml each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 60 ml
Hygrozyme - 100 ml
SM-90 - 30 ml
Dark Energy - 35 ml
Week 4 - EC 1.71/PH 5.8
Sensi Grow A&B - 120 ml each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 70 ml
Hygrozyme - 100 ml
SM-90 - 30 ml
Dark Energy - 35 ml
Flower 20 gal – Advanced Nutrients Sensi Bloom A&B
Week 1 - EC 1.14/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 100 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 75 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Week 2 - EC 1.52/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 130 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 80 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Big Bud powder - 24 g
Week 3 - EC 1.61/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 135 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 85 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Big Bud powder - 25 g
Week 4 - EC 1.71/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 170 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 90 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Big Bud powder - 27 g
Phosphoload - 40 ml (one week only)
Week 5 - EC 1.71/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 170 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 90 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Big Bud powder - 27 g
Week 6 - EC 1.42/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 120 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 75 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Overdrive - 150 ml
Week 7 - EC 1.14/PH 5.8
Sensi Bloom A&B - 95 ml of each
H2 (Humic Acid) - 60 ml
Cal-Mag - 75 ml
Overdrive - 120 ml
Week 8 - PH 5.8
Flush
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution? 5.8
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water? I use a 4-stage R/O water
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution? As per AN recommendation (light feeding regimen for flower)
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? 68-73
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? Fall for the most part.
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check? Veg – rise for the most part; Flower – rise for the first few weeks and then fall slightly to 5.5-5.7 range. About 2 weeks ago, my Hanna meter started showing nonsense and during that time the PH may have been totally out of control, dropping to as low as 4.9. I replaced it with brand new BlueLab, which works perfectly.
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? No
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") Veg – fluorescent T-5 8 bulb fixture per 2x4 tray. Flower - Hortilux HPS 1000 with XXXL air cooled/vented reflector per 3x6 tray.
14. How close are your lights to the plants? Veg – 1 foot; flower – 2 feet.
15. What size is your grow space in square feet? Veg 150; flower 350.
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? Veg – 74-80 F, 50-70% humidity; flower – 71-80 F, 50-65% humidity (sometime, during the dark time, it spikes up to 75%, I am working on controlling that).
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? No
18. How much experience do you have growing? Novice.
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: vilnius]
#419995 - 05/18/10 03:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Should've posted this right away, sorry about that.
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419997 - 05/18/10 03:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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First five pictures are of the same plant.
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419998 - 05/18/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
mhbound said:
i almost want to say its a nitrogen problem..and the dark plant a potassium problem possibly
hmm...its like the roots have locked out the nutrients or something for some reason...
what kind of pH meter are you using?
First five pictures are of the same plant. I just purchased a brand new BleLab meter.
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: mhbound]
#419999 - 05/18/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
mhbound said:
and did you test the pH after or before you added the nutrient solution to the water?
also soil pH? if you already said sorry i forgot the first post
I do test PH before and after and try to keep it at 5.8.
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: vilnius]
#420309 - 05/19/10 11:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any further suggestions anyone? Please.
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: vilnius]
#420325 - 05/19/10 12:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Number 1 is tough but I would say it's a K def and perhaps spider mites? Don't know what else those white spots could be.
Number 2 is a Phosphorus overdose. I'm pretty sure.
Number 3 I think is a K def as well.
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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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vilnius
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: TomCollins]
#421550 - 05/21/10 09:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Spency said:
Number 1 is tough but I would say it's a K def and perhaps spider mites? Don't know what else those white spots could be.
Number 2 is a Phosphorus overdose. I'm pretty sure.
Number 3 I think is a K def as well.
Thank you very much for your feedback.
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Re: Need help identifying problems [Re: TomCollins]
#422931 - 05/23/10 10:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Spency said:
Number 1 is tough but I would say it's a K def and perhaps spider mites? Don't know what else those white spots could be.
Number 2 is a Phosphorus overdose. I'm pretty sure.
Number 3 I think is a K def as well.
REMEMBER MOST PLANT DEFICIENCIES OCCUR FROM PH BEING OFF...
Yea I agree it's a hard to tell decision here, but I think 1 and 3 are definetly K(Phosphorus) deficiency. For 2 he says K Toxicity, I'm going to go with Zinc toxicity. GO WITH WHAT HE SAYS.
You want to know how to fix these problems? Check your PH most of these problems happen from PH being off they just show up in the forms of nutes deficiencies and toxicities. If your PH levels are fine, than just adjust the nutes accordingly.
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