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More oil
    #418748 - 05/16/10 03:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So apparently scientists are finding a shit ton more oil than BP claimed was being spilled out on a daily basis.  BP and the government were basing all their calculations on how surface oil they were seeing, 5000 barrels a day according to them.  Whereas scientists working underground have found a whole lot more oil in different layers of the sea, and are now estimating the DAILY seepage is more around 25000-80000 barrels a day, 80000 barrels equaling 3.4 million gallons. 


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/us/16oil.html


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Re: More oil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #418754 - 05/16/10 06:02 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah if you haven't seen video of the leak check it out.

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/417261/fpart/1


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Re: More oil [Re: THEBats]
    #418757 - 05/16/10 07:56 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So far this could be one of mankind's biggest :facepalm:

Fuck oil, I'll walk.

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418767 - 05/16/10 08:41 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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So far this could be one of mankind's biggest :facepalm:

Fuck oil, I'll walk.




I'll just keep driving something that gets 50ish MPG.

But yes, eventually oil needs to stop being used.


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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418768 - 05/16/10 08:43 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Aren't we supposed to be flying around in tubes by now anyway?

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418774 - 05/16/10 09:03 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Aren't we supposed to be flying around in tubes by now anyway?




They got scraped in favor of more oil exploitation.


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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418776 - 05/16/10 09:07 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The toll on wild life man. There are gonna be ecosystems sterilized for decades. It will probably take about 200 years for life to return to normal.

That's of course if we don't further fuck up the gulf :rolleyes:

Edited by DungenessDank (05/16/10 09:08 AM)

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418778 - 05/16/10 09:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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The toll on wild life man. There are gonna be ecosystems sterilized for decades. It will probably take about 200 years for life to return to normal.

That's of course if we don't further fuck up the gulf :rolleyes:




Oh the gulf is fucked.

Thing that pissed me off is that when my lab class heard about it some chick went "is that going to get to florida!?!?!?" "OMG THATS GOING TO RUIN MY SUMMER TRIP TO FLORIDA!?!?!"


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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418785 - 05/16/10 09:30 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

people only think about themselves usually, this is much more important, and could have detrimental effects

Perhaps this should be our time to say, no more oil, lets walk or find a new solution..

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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418787 - 05/16/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah people are retarded. I just avoid them.

I'm getting out of the lower 48 as soon as I can. This place is a social and environmental cesspool for the most part.

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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418788 - 05/16/10 09:36 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

^Yep!  Not to mention the massive overpopulation issues we are not addressing.  In america we like to wait for our cataclysms to happen then wallow in the aftermath to devise a way to prevent it from happening again.  We need the silicon valley type innovation in the public sector. 

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Aren't we supposed to be flying around in tubes by now anyway?




They got scraped in favor of more oil exploitation.




Drill Baby Drill!!!  How about that for a campaign slogan?  That was crazy shit for sure.  But after this happens the execs are just standing around with their arms crossed saying, we need to come up with a plan.  Money is a powerfully destructive force.  :mad:  Sometimes i am glad I dont have a lot of it.


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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #418792 - 05/16/10 09:39 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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people only think about themselves usually, this is much more important, and could have detrimental effects

Perhaps this should be our time to say, no more oil, lets walk or find a new solution..





See the problem with this is huge and very deep.  Everyone has to make money.  And in my experience people buy a nice house on hte outside of town, then commute 45 minutes one way to work!  So until we get another infrastructure in place we're stuck on the oil.  And the oil lobby is fighting against reform.  And you know how much money they have.


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Re: More oil [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #418793 - 05/16/10 09:41 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yeah I know its a nice pipe dream...


But in my pipe dream we all live off our own gardens and crops, and don't go to work, but live as humans should..that'll be the day*wipes tear away *:lol:

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Re: More oil [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #418794 - 05/16/10 09:41 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Money talks, for sure. Once all the oil companies see how much its gonna cost BP to clean this up, they will reconsider how important safety precautions are.

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #418795 - 05/16/10 09:42 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah I know its a nice pipe dream...


But in my pipe dream we all live off our own gardens and crops, and don't go to work, but live as humans should..that'll be the day*wipes tear away *:lol:




Fuckin right man.

Mankind needs to go back to the land. Problem is we are so over populated, there isn't enough land to go around.

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418797 - 05/16/10 09:48 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The complete collapse of our civilization through financial system collapse will help us progress toward that goal.  Or at least set us back a hundred years or so.


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Re: More oil [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #418798 - 05/16/10 09:53 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

If society didn't support its government its money would be completely useless,

therefore, all the money the have been hoarding all their lives becomes completely useless, and every human in that society immediately becomes equal

Edited by Harlz (05/16/10 09:58 AM)

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Re: More oil [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #418799 - 05/16/10 09:59 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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^Yep!  Not to mention the massive overpopulation issues we are not addressing.  In america we like to wait for our cataclysms to happen then wallow in the aftermath to devise a way to prevent it from happening again.  We need the silicon valley type innovation in the public sector. 

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Aren't we supposed to be flying around in tubes by now anyway?




They got scraped in favor of more oil exploitation.




Drill Baby Drill!!!  How about that for a campaign slogan?  That was crazy shit for sure.  But after this happens the execs are just standing around with their arms crossed saying, we need to come up with a plan.  Money is a powerfully destructive force.  :mad:  Sometimes i am glad I dont have a lot of it.





The cool thing though, is that first world countries birth rate has plateaued.


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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #418800 - 05/16/10 09:59 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The people have all the power, but the governments want to keep us in fear and make us think we need them to keep living.

:nonono:

We've become so domesticated.

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418801 - 05/16/10 10:00 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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The people have all the power, but the governments want to keep us in fear and make us think we need them to keep living.

:nonono:

We've become so domesticated.




Which is why it is our part to speak out.

The more you speak out, the more likely you get heard.


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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418802 - 05/16/10 10:03 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

exactly dude, you see the truth..

We are slaves for the government.. Watch this video, It fucked my mind up and seriously changed my persepectives.. If you've got 2 free hours Id seriously reccomend this..

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418803 - 05/16/10 10:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I'm very fearful we are going to experience some kind of hyperinflation in the near future.

Shit will get real then. This will only effect ~15% of the planet. Everyone else is living in such deep poverty, that they wouldn't notice the difference really.


Edited by DungenessDank (05/16/10 10:07 AM)

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418804 - 05/16/10 10:08 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I think by 2012 something big will have happened , where the people all open their eyes, and realize that we are enslaved, eating less nutritious food, they are trying to weaken us by doing this, and this bill went into effect in december 09 , it stated that every beef product must also be genetically modified if it is being sold to the american society.

pretty frightening, the only problem is lack of motivation.. We have all the reason to fight for our beautiful earth, but people won't believe this is really happening until they see it with their own eyes, and hear it for themselves.


The first step in this revolution would be to spread the word as far and wide and loud as possible..

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #418807 - 05/16/10 10:14 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I tell everyone I know that the revolution is coming. I'm not sure what form its gonna take, but something has to give.

All I can do is prepare and watch it go down.

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Re: More oil [Re: DungenessDank]
    #418820 - 05/16/10 11:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

And buy arms for yourself.


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Re: More oil [Re: Inverted]
    #418821 - 05/16/10 11:19 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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And buy arms for yourself.




I already have two arms..... :shrug:


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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418824 - 05/16/10 11:20 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I mean everyone needs to.


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    #418826 - 05/16/10 11:21 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean everyone needs to.





Yea, I suppose the amputees need to be able to fend for themselves too.


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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418829 - 05/16/10 11:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you can't hug with nuclear arms

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    #418831 - 05/16/10 11:25 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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you can't hug with nuclear arms




YES WE CAN!

:obama:


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Re: More oil [Re: Inverted]
    #418843 - 05/16/10 12:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean everyone needs to.




you're totally right. Everyone with the right should have a gun.:facepalm:


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    #418844 - 05/16/10 12:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean everyone needs to.




you're totally right. Everyone with the right should have a gun.:facepalm:




The ones I would be scared of already own one.


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Re: More oil [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #418858 - 05/16/10 12:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The ones who have em already are more scared of the ones who have them already.

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Re: More oil [Re: King Koopa]
    #418869 - 05/16/10 12:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I agree..

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #419127 - 05/16/10 09:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I think by 2012 something big will have happened , where the people all open their eyes, and realize that we are enslaved, eating less nutritious food, they are trying to weaken us by doing this, and this bill went into effect in december 09 , it stated that every beef product must also be genetically modified if it is being sold to the american society.






Source please. Without a credible source this sounds like a load of bull shit.

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Re: More oil [Re: Ojom]
    #419130 - 05/16/10 09:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I think by 2012 something big will have happened , where the people all open their eyes, and realize that we are enslaved, eating less nutritious food, they are trying to weaken us by doing this, and this bill went into effect in december 09 , it stated that every beef product must also be genetically modified if it is being sold to the american society.






Source please. Without a credible source this sounds like a load of bull shit.





Its all in the video I posted,

Videos.google.com 


type in esoteric agenda.. sorry I dont have the sources but its in the video..

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #419151 - 05/16/10 10:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

lol alex jones. :ilold:


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Re: More oil [Re: THEBats]
    #419189 - 05/17/10 08:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Im sorry, are you questioning the credibility of the video.. if so please elaborate

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #419194 - 05/17/10 09:11 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

alex jones is a nut who like to mix half-truths with complete distortions.  I mean why don't you find sources that someone hasn't gathered for you and told you what to conclude based on evidence presented?  I will tell you this, half truths mixed in a media presentation such as alex jones videos make half truths a whole lot more believable and presentable.  The persuasion factor has changed, but not the amount of information to support it.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: More oil [Re: THEBats]
    #419198 - 05/17/10 09:22 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Makes sense, but I guess knowing some half truths are better than being completely blind no?

I bet the presentation and information he provides is enough to inspire many humans to re evaluate their ideals and question their government,

most humans certainly wouldn't have taken the time from their day , nor do they have the time to search for the truth, and change the government, because they are too busy being slaves to it.. But if you show them a lot of disturbing info,in the shortest amount of time possible it might be enough to inspire change..


In the end who can decide what is true and false? Can you prove anything you read on the internet?

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #419278 - 05/17/10 01:21 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Makes sense, but I guess knowing some half truths are better than being completely blind no?





That'll still require some work on your part.  How do you know what part is true and what's not?


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Re: More oil [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #419281 - 05/17/10 01:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Thats the hard part..:shrug:

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Re: More oil [Re: Harlz]
    #419285 - 05/17/10 01:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Half the work has been done already.  :lol:


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Re: More oil [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #419287 - 05/17/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

And thats why I like it :randy:



you're a funny guy furrowed:getstoned:

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