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 Helicees
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 My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. 
#416332 - 05/12/10 08:56 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello Growery, first time poster long time reader.
Here's the deal, a friend of mine has a Arjan's Haze #1 growing and he had a branch growing downwards and it wasn't gonna get much light.
So he cut it and was gonna throw it away, not being much of a cloner (he always starts from seeds) so i interjected and got the cutting.
I quickly googled the how to's of cloning to get a quick run through as i didn't want to mess anything up. Ofcourse i didn't have any rooting medium on hand, so i throw it in a glass of water (not clear). I remember something about splitting the stem helping to grow even more roots so i did that, and made sure there was no air bubble (from the bible) then i trimmed the lower 2 leaves leaving only the top 2, put the cutting in a medium sized pot half filled with soil and covered it with saran wrap and poked a few holes in it.
I wasn't very optimistic at first, since I've heard sativa's can be harder to clone, i had no rooting hormones and it was from a upper branch. But after a few days it was really perky, the small leaves it had grown bigger and bigger, new leaves appeared and now there is even evidance of a 3rd set. However these leaves are growing very slowly and there are still no roots.
I know there are no roots because I've had to physically remove the stem and place it a lil' better. What's worst is my dad rang the doorbell as i was doing this, so i had to hide the pot (pun unintended) and get to it later. He sure lingered and the plant was losely planted in the pot for maybe an hour or so while my dad was visiting.
After the visit the plant looked down .. it was drooping a lot.
I remembered reading about scraping the stem if it's too woody.. and mine was definetely very woody, so I scraped the sides of the stem, not removing the scraping but rather letting the scraping hang on the side as if they were roots. I centered the plant in the pot, got some BBQ sticks and broke them in two, and placed them as supports for the plant. Put it near some blue light and checked again in 30min. After those 30min the plant looked much better, i tried removing one of the supports for the bigger leaves and the branch held its weight SUCCESS! I could even remove all the supports, it looked like it was gonna be fine.
The day after the incident, Today that is, there was a noticable increase in size for all the leaves so i'm thinking the scraping may have done a lot for it.
So my question is i guess am i going about this right? If my plant is growing in size and it has no roots is that okey? The newer leaves were turning very light green a few days ago so i lightly misted it with some water that had a tiny amount of nutrients, mainly nitrogen. It's still pretty green but the tips of the newer leaves are turning the regular green color. Was that okey?
And yes before anyone asks, i air it out and mist it daily sometimes 2-3 times.
Pictures taken with a camera phone, quality is not the best.
Edit: added pictures. Sorry for huge size lol.
When i got the cutting it looked more like the plant does now minus the two biggest leaves.
Edited by Helicees (05/12/10 04:03 PM)
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 Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Amnesiac]
#416376 - 05/12/10 10:39 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amnesiac said:
When was the cutting initially taken and placed in the water?
Around 10 days i think. give or take a day.
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Amnesiac said:
How big is the container it is in?
Now it's in a pretty big one, basically i could flower it in the pot it is in now. the reason i picked it was i wanted a pot deep enough so that i could cover the top with saran wrap in substitute for a dome.
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Amnesiac]
#416398 - 05/12/10 11:35 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is it that bad to mist it with some nutriants?
I don't use that much, it's prolly around 1/5th that of a normal plant would get.
Since it doesn't have any roots for nutrient uptake i figured it might be okey to give it a dash through the leaves. Doesn't seem to have adversly affected it in any way.
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#416501 - 05/12/10 03:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Aight.
But just to clarify, i was not putting any nutes in the soil apart from the misting that missed the leaves and hit the soil.
I haven't done anything to the soil, it's still nice and humid.
And thanks for the advice.
Anything i could do to help speed things a long once it has started rooting?
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#416509 - 05/12/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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hawksapprentice said:
I know you weren't putting nutrients into the soil. But they don't need to be foliar fed to root.
Wasn't directed at you in particular :P just wanted to clarify since i didn't bring it up specifically in the original post.
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hawksapprentice said:
What can you do to help it along after it's rooted? Buy this book https://www.discountbooksale.com/store/productslist.aspx?ProdID=131&ec=1&sort=11&AWTrck=1035642836&searchAuthor=Cervantes+Jorge&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=jorge%20cervantes&utm_campaign=authacc-0010&b=GGL_DBS_131_authacc_0010_703_00_*GeoUSCA*__jorge%20cervantes
and do a lot of research.
I have the book 
And I've grown from seed twice with my flatmate. (LST ftw!)
So far the grows consist of Super Silver Haze, Lemon Skunk, Hawaiian Snow and Big Bang.
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Inverted]
#418340 - 05/15/10 02:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks Inverse for the input, i've been giving her a lil' more air now and then.
This picture is from 3days after the last 2 were taken.
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Helicees]
#419443 - 05/17/10 07:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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DAY 15:
Unlike the last picture this one was taken with the plant under the light.
It's getting pretty light green almost yellowish now. I haven't misted with nutes since the made the thread.
So it's looking worse cause it's forming roots?
Edit:
Also It's been under 12/12 light and not the preferred 18/6.
The reason is Ive got a very limited grow space and my flatmate was putting the mother plant to flower.
With 9-10 more weeks to grow under 12/12 could it get to a descent size? good yield would be what?
And if it doesn't grow to a good size, could i trim the buds off once ready and rejuvenate the plant back into veg?
Edited by Helicees (05/17/10 07:36 PM)
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Inverted]
#421589 - 05/21/10 10:54 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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My flatmate was pruning the mother plant yesterday and was gonna throw away a whole bunch more cuttings.
I took the 4 biggest i could find out of the bunch (2 of which were only a tad bigger than the stuff i threw away) and threw away the rest. In retrospect i should have tried those as well just to try it.
I did the same as i did with my first clone, but this time i put them in a cloning tray.
They all looked pretty mangled, but the biggest out of the bunch looked worst.
I think i may have trimmed it's stem too short, i threw it away.
(all of the cuttings had been cut from the mother for prolly 20min or more before i got to them)
But i was left with 3 that survived, so a 75% success rate on that try.
I'm gonna keep them in with the mother while the lights are on, and then move them out of the closet during the mothers night cycle, to prevent a full 12/12 night cycle for the clones.
New Clones:
Just Planted.
That night.
Old Clone
Edited by Helicees (05/25/10 07:42 PM)
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Helicees]
#423902 - 05/25/10 07:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm getting worried about my oldest clone, it's starting to look a bit down.
I gave it a tiny nutrient dose 3 days ago and she seemed to perk up a lil but not much.
this is 14 days after i posted this thread.
ca. 24 days after it was cut.
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Re: My first clone, semi grow log - semi help post. [Re: Helicees]
#424965 - 05/28/10 08:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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It hasn't shown much growth for a week now.
The two biggest leaves have the right color but the newer ones are all light green almost yellowish.
Can a clone even root properly under 12/12 like it's been under for 20+ days.
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