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nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions
    #411732 - 05/04/10 03:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i cant find powder nutrients specifically designed for growing in soil. does anybody know of any?
and if not can i just use compost tea for my soil grown plants for there whole lives?
and with compost tea how do you know when you have too little or to much nutrients?. from hat i have read you can add just about anything to compost tea.
all i have is worm compost, agave nectar, honey, agar super thrive,spent coffee and i can get blood meal
what do i NEED o add to this?

fish oil?,kelp?
most recipes i saw called for chemical nutes, dosnt that defeat the purpose?


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413105 - 05/06/10 02:54 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

not all at once people...
"bump:  nutrients specifically designed for growing in soil do they exists?
and can someone give me  good reason why hydroponic chemicals cant be used for soil?the only  thing i have found is salt build up but if i flushed every other watering wouldn't that not be a problem?


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413114 - 05/06/10 03:08 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Some people do use "tea's" for their whole grow, not sure how great it works.

Why does it have to be powder?


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413138 - 05/06/10 03:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

powdered is a shit load cheaper and i dont feel like paying for shipping water.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413262 - 05/06/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Buy a couple bottles of floranova, super concentrated and cheap to ship.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: DieselB]
    #413446 - 05/07/10 12:21 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

whats the difference between that an h hundreds of other products? again hat just seems like shipping water weight to me. also thats for HYDROPONICS


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413452 - 05/07/10 12:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Figure out how growing weed works first.

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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: DungenessDank]
    #413474 - 05/07/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, I didn't know it was only for HYDROPONICS! I must not can read then..


I'm not gonna sit here and do homework for you and tell you why its better, you found this site, you can find that info just as easy.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: DieselB]
    #413480 - 05/07/10 01:45 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Order some bat or seabird guano. You can get bags higher in nitrogen and also phosphorus.  At my dro store you can get a bag of guano for like 15 bucks. I'm sure you can find something cheaper online.

Keep it simple man. Don't stress over the details. Almost anything/everthing is here for you to learn...just use the search engine.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #413549 - 05/07/10 07:42 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

k i coldnt find anything that said floranova was safe for soil.
but just to get this straight
not a single person knows of any powder nutrients specifically designed for growing in soil?
and can someone give me a good reason why hydroponic chemicals cant be used for soil?the only thing i have found is salt build up but if i flushed every other watering wouldn't that not be a problem?


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413552 - 05/07/10 07:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, look at the picture above.  It is designed for both soil and hydroponic.  FoxFarm can be used for both soil and hydroponics.  Almost all ferts are designed for use in soil, and then you have some nutrients that are intended for hydro only and are usually labeled as such.


As far as dry nutes, haven't seen too much in the way of em or used any.  Why do you have to order the nutes?  Why don't you just go down to you local grow store?


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413556 - 05/07/10 07:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

And are you wanting water soluble nutes then?  Because if you did a little bit of research on soil amendments you'd learn that you add things prior to the grow like bone meal, bat guano, blood meal etc. to provide nutrients.  If your wanting to go with the dry nutrient route like your talking about.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413557 - 05/07/10 07:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

hawksapprentice said:
Wow, look at the picture above.  It is designed for both soil and hydroponic.  FoxFarm can be used for both soil and hydroponics.  Almost all ferts are designed for use in soil, and then you have some nutrients that are intended for hydro only and are usually labeled as such.


As far as dry nutes, haven't seen too much in the way of em or used any.  Why do you have to order the nutes?  Why don't you just go down to you local grow store?



wow i did look at the picture! i know now it is b when i was reading i couldn't find a single ting that said that...
and i have read on dozens of sites they say not to use hydroponic chemicals in soil...
m local grow shop is owned y narcs ( or at least extremely sketchy people that talk about rowing weed as soon as you walk in, so i dont like going there.
also i would still like a good reason why hydroponic chemicals cant be used for soil?
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hawksapprentice said:
And are you wanting water soluble nutes then?  Because if you did a little bit of research on soil amendments you'd learn that you add things prior to the grow like bone meal, bat guano, blood meal etc. to provide nutrients.  If your wanting to go with the dry nutrient route like your talking about.



please dont double post edit your last post...
and no im not :facepalm: i made my soil already i need nutes

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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413561 - 05/07/10 08:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Dude, listen to what I'm telling you.  The majority of fertilizers out there are designed for both.  Floranova can be used in both.  I'm telling you that you can use them in either application.

Now some lines of nutrient solutions do design separate lines for hydro and soil.  What the difference between those ones are I have no clue.  Maybe something to do with the availability of nutrients since your running a different pH?? 


So you only have one grow store in your town?  You can also try nurseries.  They'll have different plant foods that are in solid form.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413566 - 05/07/10 08:02 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

For someone who's wanting advice you sure don't make us want to help you.  I'll post as much as I want.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413575 - 05/07/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

http://homeharvest.com/guano.htm

Here's bat guano that says you can apply it in water feedings.  All I had to do was use google.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413576 - 05/07/10 08:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

actually i have no grow stores in my town buthve 2 within 2oish miles
hydroponics is taboo in my area and unfortunately it automatically means growing weed:shrug:
and you can post as much as you want but don't double post its pretty normal forum edicate
my fuckin god your a retard
i don want bat guano
i cant wait till i have 50 post so i can give you a bad rating.


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Edited by grod31 (05/07/10 08:13 PM)

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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413582 - 05/07/10 08:16 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Well that's a nutrient.  Your wanting a dry nutrient, and there are multiple options on that page that are water soluble.  What more do you want?

For someone who's so worried about etiquette you suck at using proper punctuation and sentence structure.


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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: grod31]
    #413604 - 05/07/10 08:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

:smirk:
sorry i hadn't smoked a bowl, im better now, but you were still being an ass
what more do i want? nothing... my question have been answered.
im just using my compost tea anyway.
and that rating is false btw i listened and took into consideration all the options


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Edited by grod31 (05/07/10 08:33 PM)

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Re: nutes designed for growing in soil/ and compost tea questions [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #413610 - 05/07/10 08:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I was being an ass because you wouldn't listen.  But okay, teas work okay to an extent.  Also Kool Bloom comes in a powder form for your later stages of flowering.


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