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Invisiblecaptain.koons
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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: Doitagain]
    #388198 - 03/22/10 11:23 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I find it fascinating. I've trained in martial arts since elementary school granted I've stuck to mostly striking martial arts. As I know how hard it is to train to just be a good striker I know how hard it is to be a well rounded fighter. I have lots of respect for these guys knowing it's hard to be a good boxer and it's even harder to be a good kick boxer and it's even harder to be a good kick boxer when you need to keep in mind you can take a knee to the face, get taken down, have your arms broken, or have someone choke you out. For these reasons I have mad respect for UFC as a sport and for it's fighters.

However I have mixed feelings about it because some of the fights are boring as fuck like I saw this fight between Kimbo Slice and Huston Alexander and for the first 3 minutes they just pranced around the ring not fighting or you'll see a fight where someone just knocks the other guy down repeatedly and doesn't do much to try to knock him out then you've got match ups where one guy is phenomenal at something where another guy sucks balls in that same area and it makes for a very unexciting fight. I tend to like Pride fighting a lot more than UFC because I get sort of mad at the rules in UFC when someone knocks someone down and can only kick their legs because you can't stomp someone when they're down which often times results in getting upkicked which is probably just as brutal as getting your head stomped in. It's also boring as shit to watch the bigger guys after the third round where they can't even swing their fists anymore because they're exhausted.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #388206 - 03/22/10 11:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah the first round NOTHING happened, the second round they exchanged minimally so I was more then generous not counting that round.

I think if HA was more aggressive he would have knocked out Kimbo because Kimbo can't strike for shit whereas HA has knocked out big names. It was pretty crazy how brutally Kimbo threw HA that one time in round 3(I think?). Kimbo is such a joke he was eliminated from the ultimate fighter and they just keep giving him chances.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #388215 - 03/22/10 12:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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captain.koons said:
Yeah the first round NOTHING happened, the second round they exchanged minimally so I was more then generous not counting that round.

I think if HA was more aggressive he would have knocked out Kimbo because Kimbo can't strike for shit whereas HA has knocked out big names. It was pretty crazy how brutally Kimbo threw HA that one time in round 3(I think?). Kimbo is such a joke he was eliminated from the ultimate fighter and they just keep giving him chances.




The kick to Kimbo's leg (shin I think) that droped him had me worried. I thought HA might of broke his shin.

But yea, the suplex was sick.

I think Kimbo pulled it off twice, if not another might of been more of a ... Headlock throw? Reminded me of the headlock throw I learned in wrestling, so that's what I'm calling it.




He sure is fucking explosive. I got in a fight in highschool and tried suplexing the guy I was fighting and he ended up hitting me in the head on the way down with his foot or knee but I ended up with my knee on his throat a second later. The idea was to throw him into a locker but it didn't work out for me.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: Doitagain]
    #388216 - 03/22/10 12:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

it's arguably flawed, in my eyes it is because it's hard to be well rounded in MMA but then you can think about how long they prepare for fights in the UFC sometimes 4-6months they will train to become the answer to their opponents weakness a lot of people don't really think about that. Having watched your opponents fights knowing what flaws and strengths he has vs going into a blind fight is basically the difference of MMA and a good street fight.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: Tangerines]
    #388313 - 03/22/10 04:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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UFC is for people who are too scared to get into IRL fights on the streets.  UFC is for pussies.

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Street fights are funny, especially when one of them sluggers gets in a fight with someone with MMA training. Look at old UFC fights before they sorted out some rules. Royce Gracie fought this dude named Chemo who was 3 times his size and they utilized hair pulling and headbutts, basically a street fight minus the weapons and clearly dirty tactics (biting, eye gouging, testicle grabbing, etc)


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #388454 - 03/22/10 08:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The thing about Bruce Lee is he was evasive as fuck, probably more so than Michida and we all know how successful that makes him. Bruce Lee also trained in BBJ for years before his death and I'm sure he's one who would ripen with age.

I'm not saying he would thump anyone in the UFC but I wouldn't put it past him if he was given a chance in his prime.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: DieselB]
    #388771 - 03/23/10 02:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yes I meant BJJ and Jeet Kune Do was made from boxing, fencing, and judo but he wrote about him learning BJJ as he felt it was worth while.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: DieselB]
    #388859 - 03/23/10 03:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Although it's good in a civilized fight it's not a good idea in a street fight or when you're fighting more than one guy. Self defense is rarely a situation where you don't need to worry about someone bashing your head into the sidewalk or kicking you when your on your back. I know guys who do the MMA thing at the gym training constantly and they can dump just about any bar brawler twice their size on their head but wouldn't dare go to the ground in a bar brawl.

You should watch the old videos of Gracie vs Chemo, this was when you could headbutt people and pull their hair in the octagon. He fought this dude who would basically be the equivalent to Shane Carwin or something and repeatedly had to tangle him up and headbutt him because he was just soo much bigger, luckily he didn't get his head stomped in.

Are you a fan of Pride? I always liked watching Shogun stomp people in the head for the KO and wonder how long it would take to snap someones neck. Soo surprised no one has died from that in Pride, yet.


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Re: UFC -- what is the appeal? [Re: Tangerines]
    #388896 - 03/23/10 04:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I second that notion. I've always thought about how badass it would be to watch slaves kill each other in the coliseum.


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