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 Harry_Ba11sach
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 Re: who grows in straight perlite?  [Re: mhbound]
#372294 - 02/24/10 08:19 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I still haven't decided if it's worth buying and mixing in vermiculite or not
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 DungenessDank
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#372296 - 02/24/10 08:23 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Isn't vermiculite supposed to provide a medium for some kind of beneficial fungus? I'm working on info I read on overgrow however many years back that was, so I might be dated a lil' 
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mhbound
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: DungenessDank]
#372298 - 02/24/10 08:27 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think it probably is beneficial its just finding the right mix..
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: DungenessDank]
#372304 - 02/24/10 08:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I don't know about that, but fungus and bacteria are in eveything so I would probably, yes
when I'm debating though I'm considering the benefits of increased water retention, and most importantly the cation exchange capacity
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mhbound
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#372309 - 02/24/10 09:01 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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yea i think perlite/vermiculite is better than straight perlite for many reasons many of which i learned from the shroomery
people just choose perlite because it does do fine on its own so they don't have to worry about mixing shit and all that...we're potheads, we're lazy
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captain.koons
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: mhbound]
#372364 - 02/24/10 10:47 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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take pvc pipe about 1-1 1/2 cram it full of perlite...stick one end in the soil through the bottom of the bucket and stick one end wherever you need it to go...and since pvc pipe can be fitted with all those little pieces and shit the possibilities are endless.
i love wisk system becayse they are set and forget practically and are much more forgiving in my experience
I don't get it...
A perlite wick is useless for soil, perlite is used in hydroponics as a wick system as everything is just a big passive network of perlite wicking nutrients to plants.
Soil uses cloth wicks, I don't see how you could utilize perlite filled pvc in a soil grow as it would just add length to the wick of perlite that isn't utilized by the soil.
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mhbound
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: captain.koons]
#372367 - 02/24/10 10:53 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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well in theory...you use like a good organic soil with a mix of verm and perlite for water retention just a little though...i actually use just perlite just enough to keep soil aerated and i only use a tab bit of perlite...
then since i have to setup my setup and leave it sometime for a day or two the wick system provides a constant supply of nutes and/or water
i feel like if you can provide a constant supply of things water air etc nutes etc you know those things the essentials then you are better off than doing the whole water and give it nutes and then waiting until its starving
just a theory needs adjustments im sure but i think it would work
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captain.koons
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: mhbound]
#372372 - 02/24/10 10:59 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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nigga, you went from perlite filled PvC to adding perlite and vermiculite to soil.
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mhbound
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: captain.koons]
#372374 - 02/24/10 11:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol........
no like.....shove perlite in a pvc pipe...one end in the bucket with the soil/plant/perlite or whatever growing medium you choose
one end in the water below and it keeps it perfectly watered you never have to worry about it all you have to do is check ph, feed those things
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pha3r0
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: mhbound]
#372383 - 02/24/10 11:16 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think 'never have to worry about it at all' is a bit of a stretch. considering the idea is still just that. plus if your in a soil or soil-less medium that retains enough water for 2 or 3 days why add the complication of a wick system which you have to monitor, adjust and clean separately. Why would you ever not check on things for more then a day. Even if you leave town it seems like going unchecked for a few days is asking to ruin your grow. In an emergency there has to be at least one person you know well enough to trust with checking on it. Maybe I am just spoiled with good friends though.
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DieselB
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: pha3r0]
#372389 - 02/24/10 11:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was considering mixing some coco into the perlite.. I've got 6-8 bricks left that need to go somewhere.
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: pha3r0]
#372391 - 02/24/10 11:26 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, a person you can trust who doesn't smoke! I have one friend who I was a little worried about taking care of my plants, not that they would snitch, but that they would die. I came back from Burning Man and my plants were as green as before and still there and they looked so big because I was gone for a week.
I think the only grow you could really leave for a day is a soil grow, hydroponics needs to be checked everyday. With soil grows you can have a friend come over and water every 2 days and they will be fine.
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mhbound
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: pha3r0]
#372392 - 02/24/10 11:26 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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pha3r0 said:
i think 'never have to worry about it at all' is a bit of a stretch. considering the idea is still just that. plus if your in a soil or soil-less medium that retains enough water for 2 or 3 days why add the complication of a wick system which you have to monitor, adjust and clean separately. Why would you ever not check on things for more then a day. Even if you leave town it seems like going unchecked for a few days is asking to ruin your grow. In an emergency there has to be at least one person you know well enough to trust with checking on it. Maybe I am just spoiled with good friends though.
why not just keep it always at a consistent moisture level? fuck having to water shit all the time.
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pha3r0
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: mhbound]
#372398 - 02/24/10 11:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess the only reason is root growth but we already covered that. I just don't see the extra 30 seconds it takes to water as a downside compared to maintaining an extra system, even if it is as simple as a wick in a bucket. As long as you have sufficient dirt or non-dirt it's only every few days you need to water. Hell my clones in the new dirt that I thought wasn't holding enough water are on day 5 and I wont water them today for sure.
But if your playing with it in school and want to test it out I am all ears for the results.
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captain.koons
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: Dephect]
#372399 - 02/24/10 11:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dephect said:
hydroponics needs to be checked everyday.
I should stop going on vacation for a week or two at a time then.
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captain.koons
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: mhbound]
#372401 - 02/24/10 11:43 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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mhbound said:
lol........
no like.....shove perlite in a pvc pipe...one end in the bucket with the soil/plant/perlite or whatever growing medium you choose
one end in the water below and it keeps it perfectly watered you never have to worry about it all you have to do is check ph, feed those things
Yeah, have fun with that one.
You obviously aren't coherent enough to comprehend my previous post.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: captain.koons]
#372402 - 02/24/10 11:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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captain.koons said:
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Dephect said:
hydroponics needs to be checked everyday.
I should stop going on vacation for a week or two at a time then.
What method do you use again? Coco Ebb & flow if I remember correctly?
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Dephect
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: captain.koons]
#372404 - 02/24/10 11:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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captain.koons said:
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Dephect said:
hydroponics needs to be checked everyday.
I should stop going on vacation for a week or two at a time then.
I love it how you come in here asking a question and you completely ridicule everyone.
Im going to laugh when someday you come back from your two week vacation and everything is gone..
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mhbound
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: captain.koons]
#372407 - 02/24/10 11:57 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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captain.koons said:
Quote:
mhbound said:
lol........
no like.....shove perlite in a pvc pipe...one end in the bucket with the soil/plant/perlite or whatever growing medium you choose
one end in the water below and it keeps it perfectly watered you never have to worry about it all you have to do is check ph, feed those things
Yeah, have fun with that one.
You obviously aren't coherent enough to comprehend my previous post.
I'm not dooooooooooooood because I'm on some muscle relaxers, klonopin and weed because i have a stress fracture in my lower back and i need surgery...
Where is your lady?
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Edited by mhbound (02/24/10 12:08 PM)
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captain.koons
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Re: who grows in straight perlite? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#372422 - 02/24/10 12:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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captain.koons said:
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Dephect said:
hydroponics needs to be checked everyday.
I should stop going on vacation for a week or two at a time then.
What method do you use again? Coco Ebb & flow if I remember correctly?
I've got a coco ebb and flow, and a hydroton ebb and flow.
Thinking of trying drip fed perlite soon.
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