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 pha3r0
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 Fox Farms Happy frog 
#365100 - 02/16/10 08:43 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I stopped by the garden shop here and to my amazement I found Fox Farms' whole line of cactus/succulent acid lover type soils. My mind realed, 'If they have this they must be able to get the other stuff', and I was off to find a clerk.
The manager told me I could fill out a request online but let me down a little when he told me the FF products they have now never sell so he thought it might be a long shot unless I wanted a half a pallet or something. He then asked if the Happy Frog soil conditioner would be of interest to me and told me he has a half dozen bags in the back he needs to get rid of.... I did not make the purchase because at 20 bucks a bag I want to be sure it's something I really want.
So can I get the happy frog make do by adding in some other stuff? The FF OF has several things the happy frog doesn't but they look like mostly just nutrient sources which I can supplement.
If this stuff is good I might go buy all 6 bags and see about a discount, my garden could use a few bags of good dirt any ways.
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#365124 - 02/16/10 10:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Happy Frog is the closest thing to Ocean Forest I believe, just a little more simple.
I have heard of it being used all alone many times. If anything buy a few quarts of Perlite and condition the HF with that.
20 bucks is the standard price for a 1.5 Cubic foot bag of Fox Farms soils. You can find them cheaper online but will probably end up paying more for shipping.
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pha3r0
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: Inverted]
#365143 - 02/16/10 10:39 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well that's good to hear I have plenty-o perlite on hand and I think my buddies still got a half bag of bone and blood meal which I was gonna put in some of. Hopefully by the end of the week the clones are in this new dirt and I can be done with all their little problems.
Oh and these are 3 cubic foot bags I believe, they may have already marked em down some they said they got em in over a year ago.
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#365744 - 02/16/10 10:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man I pay 13.95 for OF at my hydro store. HF will work but like inverted said, best to supplement that soil with perlite, it really doesn't have much in it at is.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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pha3r0
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Yeah I am gonna check out the soil mix threads and figure out a workable mix. I figure though since it's pretty much the base of their other soils I should come up close. Will have to buy a few extras but it's gotta be better then the MG 
Just watered the clones after letting them get nice and dry. They look a bit better but are showing some P def I think, gave em some but I want them in the new dirt before I go throwing a bunch of nutes at them or anything.
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#365823 - 02/16/10 11:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are these clones that are rooting?? if so do NOT give them ANY nutrients. Clones get the energy to develop roots by taking them from the leaves. This is why they will start looking deficient if your new to cloning.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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pha3r0
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Oh yes I am aware of that hawks, these are well past rooting, the 2ltr bottles are getting root bound. That's why I am wanting to solve the dirt issue so I can repot them into their final containers and have good dirt.
Looks like Friday will be the day I am going to get 2 or 3 bags of the happy frog and some other stuff along with some square pots hopefully or a couple of the clones will not fit in the veg chamber.
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"if you arent good with electricity dont go touching it...ive electrocuted myself twice...its no fun"
- mhbound
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#366796 - 02/17/10 08:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay cool, it just sounded like rooting clones and I got a little startled.
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#369172 - 02/21/10 08:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bumping for a new question on this stuff.
It's got more bark than I anticipated I am thinking I should mix it with some regular potting soil as well as the perlite. can someone tell me about what % of bark there is in the FF OF product or if it's not a problem should I just not cut it down. There is some dirt in it but not a lot and it doesn't hold much water at all by itself.
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"The proverb warns that, "You should not bite the hand that feeds you." But maybe you should, if it prevents you from feeding yourself."
- Thomas Szasz
"if you arent good with electricity dont go touching it...ive electrocuted myself twice...its no fun"
- mhbound
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#369288 - 02/21/10 12:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have no idea of the percentages of the bark and stuff but have used both products by themselves many times with no problems at all.
I can't even remember if this is in OF or HF
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: Magash]
#369332 - 02/21/10 01:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Exactly, I use it by itself and have been LOVING the consistency, and don't worry about bark and shit, all that stuff contributes to feeding and aids in drainage.
You don't want the medium to hold a lot of water, oxygen is good for the root system.
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: Magash]
#369358 - 02/21/10 01:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
Have no idea of the percentages of the bark and stuff but have used both products by themselves many times with no problems at all.
I can't even remember if this is in OF or HF
okay well i want that^
I did some tests on how much water it held and was not quite happy I added about 1part of the organic MG I have left over to 3parts HF and 1part perlite and it seems to be holding about a half gallon of water in 3 gallons of dirt, much much less then the organic MG does. however the plant in the MG/perlite mix can go 5 days without water so I figure it's holding too much any ways. I have put 3 of my clones in 3 gallon pots now and well, i need more space again fuck. 
thanks for the input guys when (if, they might get flowered unless i see some vegative growth soon) i re-pot the other two i will try just HF and see if I can tell a difference.
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"The proverb warns that, "You should not bite the hand that feeds you." But maybe you should, if it prevents you from feeding yourself."
- Thomas Szasz
"if you arent good with electricity dont go touching it...ive electrocuted myself twice...its no fun"
- mhbound
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: pha3r0]
#369389 - 02/21/10 02:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Get used to it pha3r0. I have the feeling that even when I DO upgrade I will still be pressed for MORE space. That's just the name of the game, as I'm figuring out right now. 
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pha3r0
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Re: Fox Farms Happy frog [Re: DrGreenThumb]
#369395 - 02/21/10 02:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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haha yeah here is the new space... built it so we could start some veggies for spring, obviously they will need a yet another spot.
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"The proverb warns that, "You should not bite the hand that feeds you." But maybe you should, if it prevents you from feeding yourself."
- Thomas Szasz
"if you arent good with electricity dont go touching it...ive electrocuted myself twice...its no fun"
- mhbound
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