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 Harry_Ba11sach
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 Re: Isn't extinction a good thing?  [Re: niteowl]
#360354 - 02/08/10 09:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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that's really not true man. we can count back every single individual year and tell within a degree or two what the average global temperature was. The resolution on those graphs is down to not more than 4-5 months at this point and the method for determining past temperature is extremely accurate too.
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niteowl
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#360479 - 02/09/10 12:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
that's really not true man. we can count back every single individual year and tell within a degree or two what the average global temperature was.
It is still not as accurate a measurement as we can get today
there is enough flexibility in your numbers for it to go either way
if it were a stone cold fact then there would be no debate
there are simply too may variables to claim that this warming trend
is greater than any other warming trend in the history of the planet
or that humans are responsible for it either, the numbers are not there
you can claim humans are putting X number of tons of co2 in the air daily
but you have no evidence as to weather or not it has (or will) harmed the planet
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: niteowl]
#360625 - 02/09/10 07:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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No evidence that it has or will HARM the planet, but guaranteed scientific fact that it will AFFECT the planet. CO2 reflects IR radiation that has been emitted by our planet, cold hard fact 
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: niteowl]
#360640 - 02/09/10 08:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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The planet naturally goes through Iceages.
Now we are past the point of no return to where there will be NO more ice ages. Hence we fuckt up.
Check out the documentary Ice planet.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360641 - 02/09/10 08:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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We killed ourselves.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360650 - 02/09/10 09:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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DoPeYsMuRf said:
The planet naturally goes through Iceages.
Didn't the ice age occur because of the giant meteorite?
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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: TomCollins]
#360665 - 02/09/10 10:26 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's been many ice ages.
Check out the documentary it explains everything better than I ever could.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360666 - 02/09/10 10:30 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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ehhh.
Ill recap. White reflects, blue absorbs.
Ice reflects sunlight cooling the earth creating more ice. Until of course an ice age.
If there's not enough ice to cool the earth it just gets hotter. Common sense I know.
Well long story short there's not enough Ice and its just getting hotter.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: mhbound]
#360669 - 02/09/10 10:34 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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mhbound said:
We killed ourselves.
Human extinction is probably the best thing that could ever happen.
In all actuality 98% of all species are now extinct.
MOther nature is all about survival of the fittest. We don't evolve as fast as we change the planet.
Curse our big brains.
Things like bacteria will be around forever though. The life cycle is so fast it has an upperhand on survival.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: TomCollins]
#360703 - 02/09/10 12:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spency said:
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DoPeYsMuRf said:
The planet naturally goes through Iceages.
Didn't the ice age occur because of the giant meteorite?
Ice ages occur for many reasons. Most notable Milankovitch cycles which are variations in earth's trajectory around the sun. most notable axial tilt variations (obliquity), eccentricity of our eliptical orbit, axial precession, Apsidal precession, and orbital inclination.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360704 - 02/09/10 12:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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DoPeYsMuRf said:
ehhh.
Ill recap. White reflects, blue absorbs.
A whaaaa? blue is the reflection of light in the blue spectrum. every color reflects except black.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#360712 - 02/09/10 12:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I meant heat.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360718 - 02/09/10 12:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know. heat is a color
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360720 - 02/09/10 12:37 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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When your seeing blue caused by sunlight its only reflecting the blue waves that we see.
Absorbing the rest.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#360721 - 02/09/10 12:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why do they say to use green lights during night cycle?
Cause the plants reflect green. Hence, plants are green.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360788 - 02/09/10 02:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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umm yes? I know all this? why are you telling me?
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#360832 - 02/09/10 03:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
No evidence that it has or will HARM the planet, but guaranteed scientific fact that it will AFFECT the planet. CO2 reflects IR radiation that has been emitted by our planet, cold hard fact
That's similar to the cold hard fact of marijuana having more tar and bad stuff than tobacco.
therefore marijuana smokers will have a higher rate of cancer
once all the evidence was looked at, they actually found the exact opposite
marijuana smokers do not have a higher risk of cancer than non smokers
you are like the anti-drug people taking one fact
and blowing it way out of fucking proportion
we are adding co2 to the planet, true
but you cant say one way or another
if the planet can adapt to it or not
you can't say with 100% accuracy
what affect we have had on the planet
their are simply too many variables to account for
you will never have all the numbers to make an accurate model
just like the 'Marijuana is more harmful than tobacco' argument
one must not jump to drastic conclusions based on a few simple facts
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Edited by niteowl (02/09/10 03:43 PM)
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#360931 - 02/09/10 05:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
umm yes? I know all this? why are you telling me?
I was telling you cause you jumped on me when I said blue things absorb heat. Which they do.
Everyone keeps talking about CO2 but I always thought it was from just plain old carbon monoxide.
In chemistry we learned it was really reactive. It forms really strong bonds and reacts photochemically to produce peroxy radicals.
Peroxy radicals react with nitrogen oxide.
THus increasing the ratio of NO2 to NO. Being that there is more NO2 means there's less NO to react to our ozone.
At least thats how I understood it.
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360959 - 02/09/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry man I wasn't jumping on you, I was just trying to clarify but I get somewhat curt with my responses alot because I'm always rushing off somewhere
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Re: Isn't extinction a good thing? [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
#360992 - 02/09/10 06:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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DoPeYsMuRf said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
umm yes? I know all this? why are you telling me?
I was telling you cause you jumped on me when I said blue things absorb heat. Which they do.
Everyone keeps talking about CO2 but I always thought it was from just plain old carbon monoxide.
In chemistry we learned it was really reactive. It forms really strong bonds and reacts photochemically to produce peroxy radicals.
Peroxy radicals react with nitrogen oxide.
THus increasing the ratio of NO2 to NO. Being that there is more NO2 means there's less NO to react to our ozone.
At least thats how I understood it.
we scientists don't take this shit lightly brah.
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