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THEBats
The Bridge Master

Registered: 04/20/08
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: Ben18]
#354036 - 01/27/10 07:51 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

IMO the best cure for depression is doing something constructive, something you can see improvement in and accomplishment in; for me it's playing guitar.

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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.

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Fox
healer

Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 476
Loc: traveling

Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: THEBats]
#354051 - 01/27/10 08:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I might try exercising again. I haven't done much at all this winter. If my plans would have worked out I would have been snowboarding all winter and that would have of coursed kept me in shape, but I'm in the nasty Texas winter where there's not much to do till spring so I definitely think I have a case of the winter blues.

In the warmer months I'm on a bike for about 20 miles a day but I hate riding in the cold.

My sleep and eating habits have suffered as well. I'll start with the basics and see if I have any improvements.

Thanks for the suggestions :peace:

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Farmer Joe

Registered: 09/03/09
Posts: 1,707
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: Picklez]
#354065 - 01/27/10 09:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
Exercise or Workout. Ive had lots of problems with depression over the years but working out really helps

Take that advice Fox. If you are interested in a healthy way of relieving depression/anxiety.

I was on paxil for years when I was young. It did help me....but did not teach me how to cope with the problems that were haunting me internally. When I got off the anti-depressant all my issues emerged and I had to discover real ways to cope with anxiety and depression.

my chem free approach

When life is getting too much for me a little self meditation and quality time with mother nature always helps me reason with my inner demons.

Some good tunes always help too.

But honestly when I get worked up I grab my dog and head north. Spend the day with mother nature away from the rest of civilization. No cars,developments, nothin. Just me,my dog, and the wilderness. That is my cure.

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Inverted
CNC Machinist/Greenthumb

Registered: 06/01/08
Posts: 9,953
Loc: North Star

Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: THEBats]
#354086 - 01/27/10 10:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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THEBats said:
IMO the best cure for depression is doing something constructive, something you can see improvement in and accomplishment in; for me it's playing guitar.

QFT

Growing again hit the spot for me...

I find that it's all about keeping your mind busy. Not necessarily your body, but that does help because it's a natural trigger for endorphins to be released into the system which give you that natural high from exercise.

For me though, I'm in shape so exercise isn't necessary or really a good option in the frigid winter, so try finding something you can repeat in your free time away from the van project, or just focus more of your time on that. Usually completing stages in a project makes me feel better about myself for each part I finish/accomplish. It gives me a sense of worth to see something as simple as a brand new grow chamber coming together. I find the more I sit around and do nothing, the more depressed I get. It's a direct correlation IMO.

Enough of my rant. Don't forget the semen! :lol:

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SpaceMonkey
Mind Pilot

Registered: 02/09/09
Posts: 3,471
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: Inverted]
#354094 - 01/27/10 10:45 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I also find that sunlight :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

And i read that it produces Vitamin D which is also supposed to balance you out.

I live in a sunny area, and since arriving i have noticed that the sun just energizes me and really :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

Back when i was in Michigan, this time of year would always bring me down. :feelsbadman:

:feelsbadman:

The cold,snowy winter time blues! Get some sun, surround yourself with family and friends and definatly keep your self going and doing stuff to help pass the time away. Idle minds are the devils playground!

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I_AM_SWIM
Someone Who Isn't McKenna

Registered: 06/08/09
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: SpaceMonkey]
#354125 - 01/27/10 12:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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SpaceMonkey said:
I also find that sunlight

And i read that it produces Vitamin D which is also supposed to balance you out.

I live in a sunny area, and since arriving i have noticed that the sun just energizes me and really

Back when i was in Michigan, this time of year would always bring me down. The cold,snowy winter time blues! Get some sun, surround yourself with family and friends and definatly keep your self going and doing stuff to help pass the time away. Idle minds are the devils playground!

This is great advice.

I also recommend multivitamins, but nothin' beats a day out in the sun, a vacation, relax take a bath, :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

I've been using st.johns wort for a while now, and I am not sure if it really helps, regardless if it's a placebo or not, I notice I am more :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

with it and it seems to relieve stress as it is an anxiolytic, but

doin' constructive thangs :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

too.

Look into nootropics too, because stress and anxiety are precursors for depression.

I suggest looking into l-theanine and/or aniracetam,

valerian root is :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

too.

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niteowl
GrandPaw

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 4,781

Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: I_AM_SWIM]
#354135 - 01/27/10 01:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Oh God, not you again and the :feelsgoodman:

:feelsgoodman:

:feelsbadman:

meme

:bye:

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I_AM_SWIM
Someone Who Isn't McKenna

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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: niteowl]
#354138 - 01/27/10 01:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

niteowl said:

lol wut?

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SpaceMonkey
Mind Pilot

Registered: 02/09/09
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: I_AM_SWIM]
#354145 - 01/27/10 01:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Come on now Swim, don't start the emotes spamming again!

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NobodyImportant
Science Is Subculture

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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: SpaceMonkey]
#354146 - 01/27/10 01:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

he was just quoting niteowl :shrug:

:shrug:

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Tina
Alcoholic

Registered: 07/15/08
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Loc: Middle America
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: SpaceMonkey]
#354216 - 01/27/10 05:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

SpaceMonkey said:
St. John's Wort

# Type:Medicinal Herb
# How St. John's Wort Treats Depression: Some studies have shown that St. John's wort inhibits the uptake of 5-HT, or serotonin, making it a form of natural SSRI. Hypericin, the active antidepressant compound in the herb, has been shown by dozens of placebo-controlled studies to combat mild to moderate depression with fewer side effects than most pharmaceutical drugs.

my mom used to give me this when i was a kid for my anxiety, it seemed to help from what i can remember.
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Fox
healer

Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 476
Loc: traveling

Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: Tina]
#354261 - 01/27/10 07:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks a lot guys, and girl :crazy2:

:crazy2:

, for the positive and helpful responses.

I think what would really help me is finding out why I'm even feeling this way, which I have no clue.

I keep my mind busy. I'm an avid musician, I'm head-deep in a project rebuilding my van, I do film photography which is going great... I have a lot going on right now and a lot of really good things going for me... so it's not like an "ohhhhh I'm so emo, I hate myself and life" kinda depression. I've been noticing major mood swings. One day I'll be on top of the world, the next I feel like life is just too much for me(not that I would do anything to end it, never). The slightest negativity from people will turn an amazing day into a day that I really would just like to forget.

I know what the cure is, and that is for me to get back on the road and start traveling again... but the simple fact that I can't leave this hellhole of north Texas until Fall makes it very hard for me to be happy.

I need a major cleanse. I've had the ingredients for ayahuasca for a couple years now but have been waiting for the right time to partake. I have much experience with DMT so I know what I'm getting myself into. I think the time has come, but I'm just afraid... I know it's going to be a very difficult experience because I have a lot of negative energy and spirits that I need to face and take stand against. That's the reasoning for my new sig, to remind myself each day that this medicine is going to help me.

Okay rant over. Thanks again guys, I knew yall wouldn't let me down!

:peace:

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I_AM_SWIM
Someone Who Isn't McKenna

Registered: 06/08/09
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: Fox]
#354318 - 01/27/10 09:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Of course, I forgot to mention, psychedelics really make me less depressed,

I would even go so far as to say that psychedelics are one of the few reasons why I am willing to wake up each and every morning.

love and psychedelics are all u need. o yeah, and weed :happyweed:

:happyweed:

I will send some feels good vibes to you fox, :hug:

:hug:

by the powers of

&

:feelsgoodman:

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TomCollins

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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: I_AM_SWIM]
#354422 - 01/28/10 02:00 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Fox,

Just something simple and small that may help: tea.

When I'm out of pot or just don't feel like smoking and feel kinda down or shitty I usually drink mint tea. Dunno, always makes me feel better. :shrug:

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niteowl said:
Oh God, not you again and the meme

:dudewtf:

Bit harsh imo, considering spacemonkey did the same thing right above him. :shrug:

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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.

Edited by TomCollins (01/28/10 02:10 AM)

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mel_lonta_tauda

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 9,407
Loc: the sun

Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: TomCollins]
#354423 - 01/28/10 02:06 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Spency said:
Hey Fox,

Just something simple and small that may help: tea.

When I'm out of pot or just don't feel like smoking and feel kinda down or shitty I usually drink mint tea. Dunno, always makes me feel better.

just finished a cup of chamomile w/ a lemon :awesham:

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TomCollins

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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: mel_lonta_tauda]
#354425 - 01/28/10 02:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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mel_lonta_tauda said:
Quote:

Spency said:
Hey Fox,

Just something simple and small that may help: tea.

When I'm out of pot or just don't feel like smoking and feel kinda down or shitty I usually drink mint tea. Dunno, always makes me feel better.

just finished a cup of chamomile w/ a lemon

That's the shit right thur....

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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.

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niteowl
GrandPaw

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 4,781

Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: TomCollins]
#354438 - 01/28/10 05:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

He has a history of abusing the fuck outta that smiley at the Shroomery

I ignored him over there because of it
now he is here spamming that shit too

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81renaissance
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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: Fox]
#354465 - 01/28/10 09:38 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

What's up Fox? Sorry to hear your having issues with depression. I have a good friend whose marriage ended because of how late he was diagnosed with depression, and you can imagine how that affected him.

I have a small obsession with naturalistic medicine, so allow me to offer a few other tips:

Ginger, peppermint, Ginkgo Biloba, and Siberian Ginseng are good (don't use ginseng if you have any issues with blood sugar or blood pressure though) and Kava Kava is a good solution but only when you're feeling the effects of depression, you don't want to use it long-term.
Somebody mentioned St. John's Wort which acts much like an MAOI, and is good for rebalancing brain chemistry, but be careful with hallucinogens mixed with SJW, your trip will be SUPER intense.

In terms of diet, if your carb consumption is too low, your body can't produce serotonin, which leads to depression, so get some brown rice, grains, soybeans, etc. to boost healthy carb intake.
NO DIET SODAS...the synthetic sweeteners block serotonin production.
Finally, make sure that you are getting enough sunlight...if its dismal for an extended period of time, go to a tanning salon and do a few sessions every other day for a couple weeks...its pretty cheap and it really does help.

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TomCollins

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Re: anyone use natural anti-depressants?

[Re: niteowl]
#354530 - 01/28/10 01:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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niteowl said:
He has a history of abusing the fuck outta that smiley at the Shroomery

I ignored him over there because of it
now he is here spamming that shit too

I only frequent the growery so I can't say I've experienced his spammings too much. :shrug:

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DudeTron

Registered: 10/24/09
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[Re: I_AM_SWIM]
#354712 - 01/28/10 08:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I_AM_SWIM said:
valerian root is too.

That's a good one... my girl feeds it to me as a tea.

I've never taken it consistently though cause it makes me really sleepy, but content.

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