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 Azyle00
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 The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) 
#317937 - 11/18/09 04:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Coleus Blumei or Solenostemon Scutellarioides has been reported by enough sources through the ages as having psychosomatic, dreamlike and hallucinatory effects that it bears a serious investigation by those of us interested.
It would seem enough of us are interested in exploring the psychosomatic effects of Coleus and the tek/botany of the mystery of this plant so I created a thread for us to collaborate.
I am currently growing Coleus and have grown a lot of it outdoors in my life...never realizing it could get me high...lol.
All my information so far is simply google and wiki research.
What we need is those with the knowledge and skills to actually try and determine what part of Coleus contains/causes the effect and then how can it be most effectively be extracted and imbibed.
This is the paramount problem with Coleus...what is it that makes people trip on it and how can that be best extracted, condensed, augmented and imbibed.
My current knowledge is the following:
Coleus Blumei, by chewing fresh leaves or using many leaves 50-100 in a long brewed tea or mincing the leaves very fine to mix with food will induce a psychosomatic experience similar to shrooms that takes 15 minutes to kick in, is very "dreamlike" and hallucinatory and lasts about 2 hours.
Coleus tastes awful. Extremely bitter and nothing seems to be able to mask it. Coleus when dried has no effect. Smoking it wet or dry has little or no effect. Most people feel nauseous when taking it, but claim it quickly passes with the onset of the effects kicking in.
Coleus flowers have been dried and smoked with various claims of it working and others claiming it does not work. More reports of the fresh leaves being the best source of the effects and that a significant amount of leaves needs to be used. People using 50+ leaves seem to hit a good bang. Anything less...mixed results. Almost everyone trying less than 10 leaves...claim mild or no effect.
I am growing 10 Coleus currently as I like to grow things and Coleus grows well indoors, requiring much less light than weed but they will take a long time to complete.
Coleus are very cheap at garden stores when in season. Some breeds will not work at all, Coleus Blumei being the one that most claim results with.
Coleus are extremely LEGAL in the USA and Canada.
Very little research about Coleus has been conducted related to this.
Coleus have been imbibed for their effects for centuries by Mazatec natives (Mexico/South America) claiming they aid the spiritual journey of their minds etc. How they imbibed them is unknown.
Considering experimenting with fresh leaves or semi fresh leaves in a Hookah as it is a wet tobacco smoking device. As we have assumed, the problem with burning wet leaves like a joint does not work well at all, and dried leaves have no effect. Furthermore, intense heat seems to kill whatever is in the leaf that causes the effect. Now given that a Hookah burns substances at a much lower heat level, about 10% of the heat produced in a joint or cigarette, it might be a solution.
ACTIVE CONSTITUENTS: Uncertain, believed to be an unstable crystalline polyhydric alcohol. This could explain why drying and burning them removes the effect.
Links:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=65162
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=55102
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleus
http://www.erowid.org/plants/coleus/coleus_info1.shtml
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 Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: Azyle00]
#318021 - 11/18/09 06:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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This shit grew at my school, so I smoked some of it and it tasted shitty and did nothing.
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: SmOakland]
#318295 - 11/19/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Worth a shot.
Considering you have to eat 50-70 leaves, I'd make a nice salad out of it. 
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: TomCollins]
#318675 - 11/19/09 05:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is not necessary to actually eat them as it seems sucking and chewing them for 20 minutes will absorb it similar, but that is quite the chew wad.
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: Azyle00]
#318779 - 11/19/09 07:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol, yeap. Take a picture with all the leaves stuffed in your mouth then post it on here. 
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: TomCollins]
#320838 - 11/24/09 12:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is there any way to keep these from flowering? I've got two that I took as cuttings from outdoor plants and one of them is starting to flower indoors under an 18/6 CFL lighting schedule.
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: Ojom]
#320992 - 11/24/09 11:19 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have grown coleus for years too.
I also have seen the effects of it on a person. Some young guy ingested a bunch of it and he went on a trip which sent him to a padded room for the duration of his ride. I don't have details of how much he took or how, but i run into him fishing the night of this trip. And i can honestly say, he was out there in orbit somewhere. Ironically he waslked past my house where i had coleus growing in my front window along the sidewalk. He stopped with a friend outside my window and was explaining to his friend that the plant was what made him trip. So i talked story with him for a moment and he told me a little about his experience, mostly that someone had reported him for being highly intoxicated and was picked up and brought to the hospital.
He was not violent or anything of that sort. He looked like he was having a good time when i saw him. Very mellow and talking about the visions he was seeing. (sounded crazy). But i have not really wanted to go on that kinda trip, so have never tried any of it.
Pretty plants though! 
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: SpaceMonkey]
#322695 - 11/28/09 03:30 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
SpaceMonkey said:
I have grown coleus for years too.
I also have seen the effects of it on a person. Some young guy ingested a bunch of it and he went on a trip which sent him to a padded room for the duration of his ride. I don't have details of how much he took or how, but i run into him fishing the night of this trip. And i can honestly say, he was out there in orbit somewhere. Ironically he waslked past my house where i had coleus growing in my front window along the sidewalk. He stopped with a friend outside my window and was explaining to his friend that the plant was what made him trip. So i talked story with him for a moment and he told me a little about his experience, mostly that someone had reported him for being highly intoxicated and was picked up and brought to the hospital.
He was not violent or anything of that sort. He looked like he was having a good time when i saw him. Very mellow and talking about the visions he was seeing. (sounded crazy). But i have not really wanted to go on that kinda trip, so have never tried any of it.
Pretty plants though!
Lol....
Yer a dick for posting that.
It has its effects but come on man.
Stop spreading shitty information.
It is the most mild mind altering substance I have ever tried.
Basically, most people would not feel it even at high doses.
So thats the skinny on c blumei.
You will be let down unless you are genuinely interested in its subtle effects. Most people wouldnt feel a damn thing.
I can feel it, but that probably has something to do with the fact that I can feel/trip off of .1 grams of mushrooms.
It will let you down, unless you are a psychedelic weirdo.
There is something to it though.
Its nothing too significant.
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: yageman]
#322705 - 11/28/09 04:11 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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yageman said:
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SpaceMonkey said:
I have grown coleus for years too.
I also have seen the effects of it on a person. Some young guy ingested a bunch of it and he went on a trip which sent him to a padded room for the duration of his ride. I don't have details of how much he took or how, but i run into him fishing the night of this trip. And i can honestly say, he was out there in orbit somewhere. Ironically he waslked past my house where i had coleus growing in my front window along the sidewalk. He stopped with a friend outside my window and was explaining to his friend that the plant was what made him trip. So i talked story with him for a moment and he told me a little about his experience, mostly that someone had reported him for being highly intoxicated and was picked up and brought to the hospital.
He was not violent or anything of that sort. He looked like he was having a good time when i saw him. Very mellow and talking about the visions he was seeing. (sounded crazy). But i have not really wanted to go on that kinda trip, so have never tried any of it.
Pretty plants though!
Lol....
Yer a dick for posting that.
It has its effects but come on man.
Stop spreading shitty information.
It is the most mild mind altering substance I have ever tried.
Basically, most people would not feel it even at high doses.
So thats the skinny on c blumei.
You will be let down unless you are genuinely interested in its subtle effects. Most people wouldnt feel a damn thing.
I can feel it, but that probably has something to do with the fact that I can feel/trip off of .1 grams of mushrooms.
It will let you down, unless you are a psychedelic weirdo.
There is something to it though.
Its nothing too significant.
why not try making a sort of extract, then?
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: groovy]
#322714 - 11/28/09 04:30 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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I'm a dick for posting that?
Why? because i shared an experience with you all?
But ok, this coming from a person that can trip on a tenth of a gram!
In no way did i imply that this happened to me or that i had first hand experience of this plant's psychoactive qualities. I think i even said as much up in the post? Information was something i witnessed. Take it for what it is and learn how to read and understand what your reading.
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: yageman]
#322717 - 11/28/09 05:22 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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yageman said:
Wow. It's not like Space is making up random things, he was talking about an experience someone had. 
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: Cannaboid]
#323283 - 11/29/09 10:15 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Cannaboid said:
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yageman said:
Wow. It's not like Space is making up random things, he was talking about an experience someone had.
Alright buddy.
Go use 50 leaves and come back to tell us your epic story.
Thanks for the rating ya dingleberry.
I was just trying to paint a picture for all those who have not used this damn near inactive plant.
This report is bs.
Believe me, I know it is.
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Re: The Coleus Blumei Thread (Solenostemon Scutellarioides) [Re: yageman]
#323558 - 11/30/09 12:18 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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Ok man, some people react differently to different drugs. Many varying factors play into this kind of stuff as well. For example: Are you sure you chewed the right stuff?
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