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Offlinetheman420


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90w LED grow
    #317546 - 11/17/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Okay this grow will be to see for myself and the others on the message board here how well these grow lights work. To my knowledge theirs a few of you out their that have tried and proven this!
**since I'm on a budget there will be not a lot being put into this**
So i picked up a cheap 90watt grow light for around 150-200USD some where in that range, it came and only half of it work so i bought some slow blow fuses for like 1.50. Than I went and bought some hanging bracket material at a hardware store that cost around 15.00. The seeds and organic soil I had as well as pots. the nutes are MG pro i cant find any fox farm around I'm sure there's some organic stuff I could get but I'm out of money now so no nutes for flowering!.
the total cost is around 216.50 if the light did cost 200.

SO LETS SEE IF THESE GROW EM, I KNOW THEY LOOK COOL LIT UP:tongue: 


11/28/09
started germination of seeds in wet paper towel inside of a can of chewing tobacco. temps where in the 60-70F.

12/02/09
seeds popped and put them in 2x2 pots with seed starter and a plastic bag was used as a way to keep Rh up! i will be using a 45 watt CFL for starting the seedlings.

12/09/09
Pic update



12/13/09
vegging starts and the timer is set to a 18/6 lights on lights off period. the led light is only 45 watts after a fuse blew.


12/19/09
used a 1/4 strength of MG pro today, the soil is packed very tight. Fimmed the normal plant while the mutant was left to grow. also replaced the fuse in the led to make it a full 90 watts/ much brighter now!



12/22/09
the normal one seems to have a slight Mg problem so gave it another shot of a a 50% mix of MG pro. this was after i transplanted to gallon sized milk jugs. the soil that was used is an organic type but the name is unknown? which is strange?:confused:

1/02/10
Pre-flowers are seen today. the mutant was topped as well to help make it a bit more bushier. Its much smaller and thinner than the normal plant.

1/04/10
pre-flowers are forming more on the normal plant.



1/08/10
12/12 lighting was switched on today.

1/11/10
put crushed eggshells in the normal plants pot to help with a nute burn caused by the MG pro solution i used last time. Also looks like the pre-flowers have turned to hermie due to all the stress of the lights being knocked on and off with power outages! but still have hope because its not its true sex yet!

1/12/10
the bigger bushier plant is confirmed a female, while the mutant is still pre-flowering(probably due to its more sativa side) but looks like a male so far.

1/14/10
the mutant plant was confirmed a male today. also found a bigger pot to put the female plant in, its about 2-3x's as big as the milk jugs i was using.
Was thinking about making clones from this plant, but will wait because this is an experimental grow and need to see how well the light will penetrate the canopy.

1/15/08
this is week 7 and 9 days into flowering.


1/28/10
so this is week 9 and week 3 of flowering not much has changed just the hairs are getting bigger and its doing a bit of stretching out.  i tied down one of the branches to even out the canopy and clipped away two of the fan leaves to let some light though to the inner nodes at the bottom.

2/5/10
week four of flowering and week ten altogether! its just showing pistils, no THC or crystals have dropped yet but it smells like a fruity Hawaiian coffee so far! how much longer do you guys think it will take it to bud up the rest of the way I'm aiming for the end of this month or beginning of next... then drying and curing will take another bit of time, but perfection takes time!!


sorry for the flip flopped pics it was kinda hard to take ones of the spots i wanted to show

2/19/10

once again i forgot to flip the pics! anyway it gives you an idea of what they are like on day 44, I'm thinking its going to be a few more weeks. what do you all think the, crystals are clear some cloudy.



3/10/10

okay so its getting down to the last bone for harvesting. this will be the hardest thing i have to decide in the whole grow is when to harvest because i don't have one of those microscopes to look at the trics, so I'm going on bud size( which are not going to be big due to lack of ferts) and hair colour(which they are mostly orange some even turning red and magenta!) some of the buds are purple not as many as i want but its nice to see that i did past some of that trait along.

so should i harvest or wait some more?



3/11/10
I ended up cutting off all four tops as all the hairs where orange, and left the bottom buds to rippen up before harvesting them, cut my finger in the processe which sucked cuz i fainted and the house smell of pot, plus i just got dont smoking a bowl of the tester and was coming up on that! i just cut the bigger fan leaves off and hang them out to dry in a dark place.

3/17/10 DRINKIN ME IRISH OUT!
okay so at mid day when the lights were on i did the final harvest! let them hang outside down until i could get back to the to cut them up a a bit, ended up taking about 2hours to do the 1st manicure. now their hanging upside down in a cool dark area until fully dried( then placed inside my candy jar i use for curing).  its leafy bud because i didn't use big bloom or any other fertilizer besides a lil MG at teh beginning of veg.

final result:
1)I'm est. my yield to be about 7 grams dried total- I'm happy with a quarter that i would have paid 200-240 for. and it sure didn't cost that much to grow considering i had a 90 watt led light!
2) the buds aren't as beefy as i would like but i sacrificed being organic and used a bad choice in fertilizer during the first stages of vegging.(hopefully ill come around a t get some decent fertilizer! any ideas as to what to get?
3) i found out that it can be grown under this light they have a bit to go before they can match up with the Hps lights, but if your looking at cutting cost and getting something worth your time, basically if your a smoker and is tried of paying a cost to get your bud and having the insecurity of having it laced with something do it this way. but if your growing to sell some product to a consumer i would not advice this method simply cause the weight you get from uses HID lighting is far to greater!

plant hanging up before trimming
the plant after trimming, look at all that leave material its very sticky and stinky! have another pile I'm combining when it dries to make some brownies with!
here is one fo the tops fully dried and is setting in the jar getting a cure to mellow out the smoke.

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Offlinetheman420


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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #320766 - 11/23/09 09:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ok so all three have spouted and have been put into a soil mix of organic soil. two of the seeds are of a F3 hybrid that ive been working on and the other is of an unknown strain i found on my floor while cleaning it seems that one is going pretty fast.

Right now i have them on a 18/6 timer when the 90 watt LED set at about two three inches from the soil! still no heat coming from the light a lil where the bulbs are but less than my 45 watt cfl.

I was wondering if its better to put them under the cfl until they get a bit bigger or just leave it as is, until flower and then put the cfl in for sup light?

The VISIBLE light it really cool and bright i dont know to much about led grow lights but its all real futuristic in there haha some like space bud!


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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) [Re: theman420]
    #322838 - 11/28/09 09:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

well two of the taproots must have been damaged when i put them in the soil, and the unknown strain looks likes its burnt from the light.
so i put two more top 44 seeds in a wet towel and let them set.

This time i will start the seeds off with the cfl and when i FIMM them ill put em under the led light.


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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) [Re: theman420]
    #325025 - 12/02/09 07:35 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

alrit, seems like i said i wouldnt update much but oh well i need to keep track of days on this.

The first run around didnt do anything so i have two more im putting into some 2x2 pots with seed starter and put them in the in a plastic bag with holes punched into it for ventilation, i just need the Rh up so making a small grow tent untill they get bigger. And ill be putting them under the CFL as well.


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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) *DELETED* [Re: theman420]
    #328822 - 12/09/09 11:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) [Re: Pilze]
    #329186 - 12/09/09 11:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

those seeds are from 12/02 so about 8 days old, and its under the 45 watt cfl for a couple more days, to insure i don't burn or stunt the grow.

the cfl helps produce needed heat for the room to keep it at a steady 77F and when its off its at like 70f I'd say never have checked when light are off. had minor problem today with power going off two times for a total of about 6 hours, hope nothing comes of it!

it doesn't say its a UFO, just completely white around it. but it is a tri band i believe. And I'm sure its just as good this thing is powerful enough to grow at least four good small plants. i think the guy i bought it from says it puts out 4000lumen's? not sure.

really its to see how these work and to get a bit more people interested in them. now they have LED tv's a bit pricey but they are super clear!


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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) [Re: Pilze]
    #329982 - 12/11/09 07:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i guess the HPS is betting me so far but i havent kicked in the secret weapon yet lol.
The stems are getting stronger and the root systems are building up.

the one on the right, in the pic i posted seems to be a mutant but hopefully it will get though its struggle.

those are of an unknown strain pilze? they look very healthy and strong!


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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) *DELETED* [Re: Pilze]
    #330678 - 12/13/09 12:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 90w LED grow (moved) [Re: Pilze]
    #332078 - 12/15/09 10:15 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

its in the light itself you can see only half of its working in the last picture i updated. but i think ill just leave it for this grow and see how it does... should be enough power to get something out of it.


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: theman420]
    #333517 - 12/19/09 09:03 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

cant wait to see these babies when the light comes on they are really taking off mostly the main stems are Harding up but tomorrow will be week three so a picture update!
i gave them a shot of miracle grow i know its horrible stuff to use but i have nothing else... i was thinking of putting crashed eggshell in the bigger pots, what would this accomplish? Ive heard it helps the soil.

i also put the light closer since its only pumping out 45watts i will replace the fuse when i switch to flowering.


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Re: 90w LED grow *DELETED* [Re: Pilze]
    #333678 - 12/19/09 05:03 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: theman420]
    #335375 - 12/22/09 11:04 PM (15 years, 23 days ago)

the mutant plant is doing pretty good the nodes are very close together, on the other one it seems that theres some sort of nute problem it came from the center of the leaves and its an orangish yellow colour its only on the top two, what could  be causing this? to much N? i just give them a very dilute shot of MG when transplanted.

it seems that they are doing well besides that will post a pic of the problem tomorrow so it can be diagnosed...

update on the nute problem-it seems to be a Magnesium problem so i gave it a half strength shot of MG pro which contains a 24N-8P-16K and also contains the trace macro-nutrients the plant needs. i will have to get another organic fertilizer with a high P during flowering(which should be with-in the next 4 weeks) is this correct?


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: theman420]
    #337264 - 12/27/09 07:27 PM (15 years, 18 days ago)

week 4 complete on to week 5, there coming along very nicely! thinking about some sort of grow tent since I'm using a black box to house them in.
get some panda film and wrap it around everything, this will help keep the light from coming though the door seal as well!


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: pha3r0]
    #337418 - 12/28/09 11:14 AM (15 years, 17 days ago)

yes as you should be to, there's not much information about these as there new to the market somewhat. so this is a full 90watt led with no additional lighting from elsewhere.
i also wanted to see what the big deal with these are and i can resell it if its no good, but what ive seen with it soo far is better than ive done before lets just see if it holds up to the test againts a 400w hps!!

theres another one i know of that has had great luck with these you can find his post here
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/238422 and hear is his work in progress http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/262900
im sure he wants everyone here to see what these are capable just as i do.


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: theman420]
    #338783 - 01/02/10 11:41 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

i looked at them the other day and the pre-flowers are there so now its a matter of letting them get a bit bigger to flower id say ill start flower next week or the week after since they could triple in size will add some pics tomorrow.


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: Pilze]
    #338909 - 01/02/10 03:55 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

that sucks! but you do have clones we can test those out and see what happens.
im hoping that they are female still to small to tell i want to switch to flowering but need to get some of the fox farm big bloom and some panda film to wrap around it. will post pics up sometime i doubt the pre-flowers will come up but will try to get something.

i also topped the mutaunt plant so it will bush up its not as big and strong but still looks alrite.


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Re: 90w LED grow *DELETED* [Re: Inverted]
    #340129 - 01/04/10 05:16 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: theman420]
    #343183 - 01/08/10 01:02 PM (15 years, 6 days ago)

well unwillingly 12/12 has been put into effect. i came home last night and everything was unplugged I'm not sure how long it was unplugged for. i asked my roommate and he denied he was ever in there but it had to be him!!

i let it run though a 12 hours of darkness and now its on its light period. good thing at least one was in its pre flowering stage, i hope to hell that the stress of all this didn't turn them to male or hermi's.. not to mention the power outage we had awhile back!


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: Pilze]
    #345896 - 01/11/10 07:39 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

they are from seeds, the pre-flowers have gotten bigger and the plants are as well. i put some crushed eggshell in the bigger one to help with the nute burn i did with a 50% mix and seems to be reducing it or at least helping it not spread.
Now i think they are hermies not to sure on this will have to wait and see if not when they flower up ill clean this up and stick in my journal for others that are looking into the LED scene.


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Re: 90w LED grow [Re: coda]
    #346393 - 01/12/10 03:24 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

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wtf. your roommate unplugged your shit? I'd be pissed



yes I'm sure of it, and very pissed off at the time but have to get passed it and now where onto flowering I'm just glad i caught it when i did!
Quote:

Are you feeding with plain water?  Those girls look like they got way more food then they could handle.




yes i did a flush and have been using spring water for about a week now. could have been the MG pro i used when they were so small, it was the only thing i had and have no money left over to buy organic nutes. i hope they will still produce nice buds with out ferts:confused:

A lil update: The small one looks like a male not sure its more on the sativa side, the bigger one is a female for sure! the pre-flowers that looked liked balls pushed out white hairs, I'm very glad!finally a female!! i will take cuttings from the bottom two branches since they are small and need some more growing and that way i don't need to mess about with seeds anymore.


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