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 shakalaka
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Registered: 07/22/09
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 Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly*  [Re: Ero42oH2o]
#296957 - 10/14/09 04:33 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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what are the plans to make it even better?
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: shakalaka]
#297042 - 10/14/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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They involve moving my veg area to another closet, adding a 600w light, An attempt at a home made cheap res chiller, upgrading to a hydrogen water cooled co2 gennerator, and running a couple of strains at the same time, along with an ac for the room and adding an environmental and co2 controller.
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shakalaka
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#297087 - 10/14/09 01:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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WOW. Now thats "balls out"
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: shakalaka]
#301787 - 10/22/09 12:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok. I'll start with the grusome pics and then fill you in on all of the details.
 
 
As you can see my plants pretty much just up and died over nite. It is my best guess that adding the General Hydroponics new General Organgics Boi Root and Calmag to my Fox Farm Lineup caused some sort of chemical reaction. I always test new nutrients on unimportant plants, but thought it was unnessisary for adding calmag and a root booster. What a mistake. The day before yesterday, I did a res change. When I woke up yesterday the plants looked mostly fine, but a little saggy. Had a high ph, but this usually happens to me the next day after a res change. Went on about my business. Came back about 6 hours later, and it pretty much looked like it does in the pics. I paniced and tried to do the only thing I could think of. I mixed up a batch of ro and h202 and changed to that. Let it sit for about 2 hours, and then did another change to strait water to flush h202 out, since I grow in organic. Then mixed up a batch of new nutrients minus the Bio Root and Calmag. Let it sit over night, and took these pics when I got up. I dont think they're comming back from this. I have never seen plants look this bad.
If someone things they will recover, Speak up. Otherwise I am starting the hacking here in a little while.
But all is not lost. I have 2 clones that were sexing next to the other plants that just happened to both be female. ! is my mango and the other my Blue Mystic. I also Have a Mango clone ready to flower on the side that is almost 3 feet tall and would fill out most of my screen. Looking to get those in today, unless anyone thinks I should wait out the Kush plants another day or 2 and see if they recover.
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#301846 - 10/22/09 02:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, they have been officially chopped down. Working on cleaning the tub and moving my 2 Mango and 1 Blue Mystic in there. I will post a pic update when I finish. I'm trying to make the best of this unforeseen mishap. Hope this serves as a caution for anyone trying new nutrients. Always test them out before you introduce them to your main grow or the results can be catastrophic. Even if it is just small adatives. Back to the ole drawing board. I'm really dissappointed though, I wanted a nice pile of this kush, and now I'll have to wait.
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#301954 - 10/22/09 06:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another full day of work. I cut down all of my Blue Kush Clones. Cleaned the room out and gave the tub a good scrub. I added a second t-valve to the opposite side of the tub so I could hook the pump I use to drain it up and circulate the nutrients so they dont settle. This actually makes a pretty sturdy current in the tub since it is a 350gph pump. I had my Blue Mystic and Mango clones sexing under a cfl. I lollied them a week ago. I also had a 3 foot Mango clone just vegging in my clone tub. I went back to My foxfarm mix without the Bio Root and Calmag and I'll leave it at that for the rest of the grow. I worke the tall Mango into the screen and am curious to see how big it gets since I have never flowered a plant this big in my grow room. Not to worried about the other 2 small ones since they only need 1 screen slot per plant. I have half of my new veg room built and will have a pic update of that soon in the next few days. I was hoping to finish it today, but with redoing the hole flower room, i just couldnt find the time. Here's the Pics....
 
 
 
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 niteowl
GrandPaw
 
Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 4,781
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#302112 - 10/22/09 10:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aw man that sucks 
All parta learning I guess
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FurrowedBrow
Free yourself from yourself
Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 12,045
Loc: Carpal Tunnel
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: niteowl]
#302120 - 10/22/09 10:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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and his mistakes teaching others, like me!
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
Registered: 05/01/09
Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: niteowl]
#302121 - 10/22/09 10:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm just glad I had some backup plants. I even lucked out with the small ones. They are only a week behind from the ones I cut down.
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#302213 - 10/22/09 11:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took some more pics with the lights off. It will be interesting the next few weeks to see how big the big one gets. To top it off I'm going out of town next week, so the person watching my room will actually have to do some screen training. I still am trying to figure out what the next batch will be. I'm thinking I might give the kush another go, just because I really like that herb. I've heard good things about mango, but have never smoked it. This will be my first fruit variety.
 
 
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#308204 - 11/02/09 09:24 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright guys, I'm back. I must say my room did well while I was gone. Pistils are showing on the mango already. On the sexing clone it took 3 weeks, but with this plant, only a week and a half. I was impressed and assume its from the plant being more mature than the barely rooted clone. My traveling marijuana adventure worked like a charm. So lets lay out what I did and why...
To start, nobody wants to try to bring herb on a plane. It's never a good Idea. I did some looking around and it seemed like the best answer was to mail it. I went with the USPS becase their packages are protected by federal law and cannot be opened without a search warrant with the exception of the recipiant. When you sign ate UPS, FedEx, ect. that signiture says that can open your package for any reason at any time if they feel like it. Not saying you cant send things through them, but thats why I didnt. Next, I took what I thought I would need for 5 days worth of herb and ground it up in my grinder. I then used a simple pocket rolling machine and rooled 5 joints. I had no intention of smoking jays, but it was the backup plan incase I couldnt find a pipe down in sunny Florida. I then placed the jays in a siplock sandwich bag, and then into another bag until they were sealed in 4 bags, which seemed to stop the smell from seaping out. I then placed the bag in the middle of a Maxum Issuse I had laying around. Then cling wrapped the magazine pretty thourghly and maked it with a Sharpie so I wold know if it was tampered with during transit. Then I placed it in a USPS Express next day air document envelope and sent it the day before I left so that I knew exactly when it would arrive. On a side note, you should be prepared with a bougus return address because on next day air they make you put one on the package and if you dont or refuse to it may raise suspicion. I used the local bong shops address as kind of a joke in case they decided to try to track the oragins. I wouldnt recommend a "fake" address since they are the post office and if it isnt a real address, they might become suspicious. So with all of that out of the way, when I dropped it off, they said it would be there between 3-5pm the next day. I hopped on my plane and checked into the hotel upon arrival, but had gotten there at 12pm. I was a little nervous, but I go bact to check with the desk at 4pm, and they had a package waiting for me. Brought it back to the room and all of the contents arrived untouched and I was set with my herb supply for the week. This isnt a 100% gaurunteed method, but it seems like 9/10 time your stuff will show up without any problems. I hope this helps any other traveling smokers in the future. It certainly helped me.
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Inverted
CNC Machinist/Greenthumb
Registered: 06/01/08
Posts: 9,953
Loc: North Star 
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#308368 - 11/02/09 05:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just put it in my pocket like any other day.
Never had a problem once, even on international flights.
I always bring at least 1/8 in my pocket and another one underneath the stick of deodorant. You raise it up all the way, take the stick out, put the bud in there (in a bag of course), roll it back down a little bit, stick back in, roll all the way down and put the cap on, looks and works like a normal stick of deod. but your 1/8 is sitting right under the chunk... It must be a fairly used stick otherwise there won't be enough room.
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Edited by Inverted (11/02/09 05:28 PM)
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Inverted]
#309723 - 11/04/09 11:42 AM (15 years, 30 days ago) |
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Update:
Flowering: Day 12
Temps: 80F
PPM's: 1100
Res Temp: 78F
PH: 6.0
OK. The new plant is doing well. I have never personally seen a plant flower so fast. I have buds forming, not just a couple of pisltils since day 8 for 12/12. I credit the 1.5 month veg time for this since the clone I sexed of my mango took 3 weeks to show pistils. There is a slight nutrient burn showing on the tips of the leaves, but nothing I'm to concerned with. This was from switching the plant from a faily light ved ppm of 600 to a full strenght flower ppm of 1200. I expect it to fade off as the flowering continues. If it doesnt, I will lower the ppms closer to 1000. The spider mites are still making their presencre know and I will be sparying again today. Little bastards are hard to get rid of, but I have successfully removed them from my Piss clone and will be cutting clones to regrow my mothers today and save myself the headache of trying to treat full size plants. These new mite free clones will be moved to my new veg room. More pics of that later today. It is still not done since I am wating on a 400w MH to put in there for the mothers once they mature, but it is fully ready for them at this point. Once this Mango finishes I will be tearing down the whole flowering room and reconfiguring it for 2 of my screen setups with a bleach wipe down and bug bomb preceeding that. Not a huge pic update since there isnt to much to look at yet, but more as the situation changes.
 
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KusH_OnE
Southern raised...
Registered: 10/11/09
Posts: 6
Loc: Ky.....
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#310109 - 11/05/09 12:07 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Damn man im sorry about your loss. But is seem your making a fast comeback.. Im pullin up a chair for this one.
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: KusH_OnE]
#310243 - 11/05/09 10:19 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Lets just hope this one stays doing better than the last ones. Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you enjoy the show.
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FarBeyondDriven
Truthfully, I'm a bullshitter
Registered: 04/22/08
Posts: 13,834
Loc: Greenbow, Alabama
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#310491 - 11/05/09 06:29 PM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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ill be checking in man good luck 
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Dr. Siekadellyk
Question Everything!
Registered: 04/20/09
Posts: 9,365
Loc: Ketamine
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#310516 - 11/05/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Seriously man you have the best grow log going on this site currently IMO! Very well put together.
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
#310902 - 11/06/09 01:20 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks guys. It will be getting into greater detail again once i finish the new build and get the new equipment.
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Integra21
Up and coming Farmer
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Posts: 784
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#314502 - 11/12/09 01:47 AM (15 years, 22 days ago) |
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Update: Day 21(week 3)
PH:5.92
PPM:1050
Res Temp: 77F
Rm Temp: 79F
Humidity: 48%
Things are coming along well. It appears I have a slight N deficiency as well as Cal. I have added more to the nutrients when I changed the tub today. This is still the fastest I've ever seen my girls flower. This is usually what they look like at 5 weeks. I also added a 26w 10.0 UVB bulb above one section of the plant. I am hoping to see a noticeable increase in trichome production in this area. I have pretty high hopes since all high uv grows I've seen look frosty as hell. I cut a bunch of clones last night to re-grow my mothers in a spider mite free environment since it is too hard to try to get rid of them on full sized plants. I will try to put pics up of the new veg room tomorrow. Its still missing the 400w for my mothers when they're bigger, but hopefully I'll get that soon. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to leave them. Now...on with the bud porn!
 
 
 
 
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geokills
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 Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
#315555 - 11/14/09 06:31 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Sorry to see your poor Blue Kush plants meet their untimely demise... but glad you had backups! 
I've always been a little weary of hydro systems due to their seemingly high sensitivity to any changes in the nutrient solution. Then again, I have no direct experience with hydro. Can you comment on past soil grows, and what ultimately convinced you to go full bore with the hydro system?
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