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 lasereyes
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 First time growing.... Done. (Cured bud pics update: 1/27/09)   1
#309688 - 11/04/09 10:10 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Disclaimer: I'm new to this and learning, so please excuse my noobness.
I have a small plant that I've had growing for roughly 2 or 3 months. The first month or month and a half the plant had shitty lighting so it didn't grow much. It's now under a 150w equivalent spiral CFL bulb with a dome reflector. Not optimal, but it's working for now.
I'm growing the plant bonsai style due to lack of space and nosy neighbors. Since I put the plant under the CFL bulb it has grown a lot. About a week or two ago it started preflowering (it's a female).
Thing is, I don't want to flower it yet, I'd like to veg it for a bit longer. Is there any way that I can get the plant to go back to veg stage or will that just make it become a hermaphrodite? Not sure on the real strain so I couldn't tell you if it's an autoflowering strain or not. The seed came from a bag of "OG Kush" but I am calling bullshit on that one.
Edited by lasereyes (01/27/10 10:33 PM)
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: TomCollins]
#309706 - 11/04/09 11:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thing is I really can't leave the light running 24/7 because the damn light keeps me up. Perhaps I can find some way to move it into the closet. I just worry about the heat being too much in there because there is a steam pipe in the closet.
Hmmm... 
Is there any way I could tell if it is an autoflowering strain? If it goes into flower mode then I harvest without killing the plant, is it gonna keep on flowering? How does that work?
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Azyle00]
#313778 - 11/10/09 03:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I decided to just flower the damn thing. I have noticed recently that the plant is really starting to stretch between nodes now that it has gotten so big. Would training the branches to grow closer together (so they're all within the dome reflector) help this?
Yeah, I know I'm half-assing this, but it's all I can do for right now aside from just turning the thing into cannabutter.
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: drumma]
#320829 - 11/24/09 12:10 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently moved the plant to an area where it has more room to grow. It's under a lamp that has 5 telescoping arms with lights at the ends. I have it under the following CFL equivalents: 200w, 150w, and 3x 60w. The buds are growing much more dense, the plant looks a LOT healthier and the crazy stretching stopped 
Unfortunately I have horrible planning... I'm only going to be able to allow the plant to flower for 7 weeks total because I have to leave town for a decent amount of time, plus I'm going to be having a government building inspection.
How badly will only 7 weeks of flowering effect the harvest? What is average flowering/budding time?
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
#321533 - 11/25/09 01:41 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: coda]
#321568 - 11/25/09 02:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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The fan leaves on this plant are pretty narrow, so I'm guessing this is a sativa dominant plant. Balls =\
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: coda]
#321752 - 11/26/09 12:11 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not giving up hope, I'm going to grow it out until the day before I have to leave for a few weeks. My place tends to be low humidity(40%-20%) because of the heat system, so the buds will probably dry out within a day of hanging them up to dry. I'll cure what I have in jars for a few weeks and see how it works out.
I'm going to root a cutting of the same plant before I leave for the extended period of time, and put it back on 24/7 light schedule so it goes back into veging and have a friend water it for me while I'm away. I'll try flowering again once the plant looks nice and robust. I'm going to have to bonsai it again because I don't have much room, but I know how to trim/train it so I get a lot of bud sites (just not too familiar with nutes and flowering schedule, but I will read up). Should be fun, I look forward to it.
I actually have another seed that a friend gave me (rare in my area, most bags don't have seeds) so I may try that one too. Growing herb is kind of an addictive hobby for me... I always want to "out do" my past grow. I'm a huge fan of gardening so I take growing herb as the ultimate challenge because I want to produce the most I can within my abilities. I can't do a HPS lighting at my place, but I will CFL the hell out of it. I might be getting a new HO T5 fixture for the sake of growing pepper plants soon, I'm sure herb would enjoy that lighting too
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
#323681 - 11/30/09 03:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, I just got back into town last night after being gone for 5 days. I was worried that the plant would be dried up when I got back because the place it's being grown tends to be pretty dry. Upon checking on it, it was wilting pretty badly so I gave it about 600ml of water (8 inch pot) and it fluffed right back up.
I noticed that there didn't seem to be hardly any new growth during the 5 days that I was gone and this is after moving it to a lot more light. I was doing some reading and I think I may have a problem with nutrient lockout. I may have gotten a little over zealous with the fertilizing the past few weeks. Here's why I think I'm having some nutrient issues:
• The stems of all of the newer large fan leaves have gone purple
• Buds are especially small, not very compact
• After that 5 days of being gone, roughly 15-20% of the hairs have turned orange... Prior to going out of town it was only 1-2%
• Last week a lot of the smaller leaves at the bottom of the plant went yellow and died. I assumed it was just because they were old and not getting enough light, but now I wonder.
During my reading I also realized that you should flush the plant every once in a while.... I've never flushed it. In fact, for the past week and a half or so I've only been doing bottom watering- regardless of just pure water or fertilizing.
You guys think it's about time for a flush?
Edit: if you want some pics let me know and I'll get to work on that.
Edited by lasereyes (11/30/09 03:47 PM)
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
#324263 - 11/30/09 10:37 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just bumping teh post for the night time crowd. If the more experienced growers think it needs a flush I will do so ASAP (tonight).
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#324272 - 11/30/09 11:07 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, unfortunately they are still under CFLs. I can't really do HPS now due to the amount of room available and nosy neighbors. I think I'll try the flush, switch to a fert that is higher in P and K. From what I've read and the ferts I've been using it seems like P and K deficiencies are happening. I think I got a little crazy with the ferts for a while thinking the plant would need more ferts for flowering. That was before reading up. Is there a "pot for dummies" guide out there somewhere? I've looked through the articles on the main growery site and haven't had much luck. Perhaps my search abilities just suck. If that's the case, point me in the right direction por favor.
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#324293 - 11/30/09 11:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's some pics. Really just for the hell of it, because everyone love pictures, but maybe you can tell me what I'm doing wrong from these... I'm kinda clueless... hence the questions.
     
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
#324415 - 12/01/09 08:38 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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It has been on 12/12 for 22 days. I really have no idea if I could veg it more at this stage since flowering has begun. I'm still not 100% sure on how going from flowering back to vegging would work out.
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Azyle00]
#324440 - 12/01/09 09:27 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should I not be worried that there has been hardly any new growth in a week?
Edit: what ratios should I be looking for in a fert to be used for flowering? I know I need higher levels of phosphorus but what about nitrogen and potassium?
Edited by lasereyes (12/01/09 09:41 AM)
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#325693 - 12/02/09 09:24 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright, I'm thinking I was worried about nutrient lock for no reason. I did a flush two days ago with 1 gallon of water. Plant seems to be growing perhaps a bit better. I think that the plant wasn't in full "flower mode" yet. Since I flushed the soil the plant seems to be forming true colas (smaller fan leaves, more tricomes and more dense buds). Like I said, I've never done this, cannabis is so much different than any other plant I've grown. There is so much to learn it's insane. Much more complicated than mushrooms or cacti.
I gotta admit, it's a ton of fun. I really wanna figure out some way to conceal a 400w HPS. I don't think I'd be able to hide it though. If anything I might try a 200w CFL grow.
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
#330574 - 12/13/09 12:30 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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This update actually comes with no problems. Growth during flowering seems to have picked up a bit since I changed to a 8-15-10 fertilizer. Once the plant got into flowering it almost seemed to have quit growing until I changed to a higher phosphorous fertilizer(previous was high in nitrogen). It's still growing VERY slow though, which sucks because I have to start flushing her in about 7 days. The addition of a bunch more CFLs made a big difference in density of buds. I wish I could flower it longer but I am leaving town for 2 weeks for Christmas. I'd probably flower it for another month or so but no dice on that. No one I can trust to take care of it. Lamesauce I say.
Anyway, here's the picture update on how she's looking now.
     
Not too bad for a half-assed effort IMO. I really want to do HPS for flowering on my next try. I might be moving soon so that may be a possibility.
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
#332524 - 12/16/09 09:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Took an early sample of the crop tonight and was quite impressed. It's a very relaxing high but not enough to knock you out. Listening to music is orgasmic right now. Rocking some 311.
Anyway, I decided to get all artsy fartsy and take some pics of the plant with the lights on. Here's some update pics:
  
I'm getting a bit of the leaves curling under. Switched to a new fertilizer and it was tough to judge the strength of it, over fertilized. Either way, I'm flushing her now. Gotta harvest next week 
I talked to some friends tonight that want cuttings though, so I may be able to grow this strain out to it's full potential someday. It's just starting to smell REALLY fruity. It's to the point I can smell it when I walk into the front door of my building. Luckily everyone in the building is cool with it and is excited (or just doesn't care) to see what the finished product is like. 
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#332647 - 12/17/09 07:31 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm curious what he means by nanners too. I see nothing that resembles bananas other than the curled leaves.
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: ASEgrower]
#333564 - 12/19/09 11:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope, no pollen sack, just small curled up leaf.
Alright, I have a debate on my hands. In case you haven't been following this grow, I'm going to have to harvest come Wednesday because I'm leaving town. She really needs probably another month of flowering but I gotta do what I gotta do.
Now here's the debate: should I dry the buds quickly and start curing them that day or should I just let them hang upside down drying for the two weeks that I'm away? Keep in mind the buds are smaller and not incredibly compact since this is a CFL grow. The place they will be dried is incredibly dry, maybe 20-30% humidity if I'm lucky. What would you do?
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, almost done... a few more questions (Updated 12/19/09 w/ pics) [Re: lasereyes]
#333773 - 12/19/09 09:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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The question I posted earlier about harvest/drying/curing I still need an answer to, but here are some pics of her today:
        
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lasereyes
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Re: First time growing, almost done... a few more questions (Updated 12/19/09 w/ pics) [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#335394 - 12/23/09 12:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Slother, thanks a lot. I harvested tonight. After trimming it all up (god damn I had to clean the scissors like 3 times, really sticky stuff), I think I might end up with maybe half an ounce max, not bad considering the halfassed effort I put into it. I do have a bunch of cuttings for edibles though
Hopefully next time I decide to grow I will be able to use the proper lights or at least upgrade my shitty set up. I hate halfassing things and prefer to go all out if possible.
Sorry though, no pics of harvest, I'm pressed for time so couldn't do that. Buds are all hung up to dry in a really inconvenient place to take pictures. I'll get pics of the dried buds once I get back in town.
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