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 Inverted
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 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! 
#308928 - 11/03/09 09:02 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes!
So motivation levels have been high lately and I've got the grow bug bad (low smoke) and have A LOT of seeds from great genetics.
So first, I'm using a 175w MH, and (4) 30+W CFL's. I can't get better lighting until I get a job again.
I built a 20" x 20" x 30" Grow box, and painted/sealed the interior with moisture resistant paint to reflect as much % of light as possible. Works nearly as well as Mylar anyways.
I'm growing in soil. Mostly sphagnum peat moss, perlite, and some organic compost all mixed nicely.
Starting seedlings in Paper towels for 2 days, then move to the 16oz Keg Cups. I plan to veg. them for 2-3 weeks max and then switch them over to flowering. A transplant to 1 gal. containers will also be in order at that point. Not looking for a lot here, maybe 3-4 Oz's to last me until my *next grow. I can pull that off.
I germinated 3 Purple Haze, and 2 Crystal seedlings right off the bat to test the viability of the seeds. GREAT! Now I added 5 GDP and they will be in the box in the next couple days.
After those were transferred to the soil medium, I proceeded to germinate 10 more Crystal. That's the highest yielding strain i've grown yet. Also my favorite taste and smell.
Those are now far too ready for the soil after only 2 days in germination, with over half already growing cotyleydons inside the baggy.
 That's no problem, actually it's what I want to keep them as short as possible because I can stick them in right up to the first set of leaves flush with the soil level.
Here's some pics for now, although I know this grow won't be exciting to many people until the end, as with most.
This is what I did a few months ago w/ just simple bagseed so let's see what I can really do with some great strains!
Okay so here's what i've got so far. Trust me there will be plenty more where that came from. 
   
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Edited by Inverted (12/04/09 10:18 PM)
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Inverted
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 Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#309619 - 11/04/09 03:14 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Grand Total
I now have 12 little Crystal's, and 3 Haze!
I only chose to germ. 3 Haze mostly because it's Sativa Dom. and I won't have the space for quantity of these.
The Crystal are the money makers. Large dense trich. covered buds, on a medium size plant. That's what i'm looking for as I'm doing a mini SOG of sorts. I'm mainly starting this many just to be sure I'll get at least 5-6 females. I plan to flower them once they have reached 6" and grow mostly one big bud per plant, plus popcorn nuggets of course.
PICS! DAY 3
   
Now is the easy part, time to sit back and relax and watch the show!
 
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Inverted
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: mhbound]
#312081 - 11/07/09 10:37 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright well I've got 3, 30w CFL's in there now, but that's only temporary for a few days just to keep them alive while I buy more bulbs and sockets. Just gotta get some money in the next couple days.
Anyways here's how they're doing. Not growing very fast but that's because I just got too lazy one night and only had 1 flouro on for 30 or so hours, really lagged them down. 3 lights should help now.
I think they are only like 5 or 6 days old for the first group and 3 days old for the 2nd group. Looking healthy at least. 
 
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Inverted
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#314425 - 11/11/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess I can't take it and will give you a picture of the progress.
I promise I'll try to keep a week between picture updates from now on...
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Inverted
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#314462 - 11/11/09 11:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok well I was a busy boy tonight. I built the framework to hold up my CFL's.
Looks and works perfect if you ask me. Simple yet effective!
I'm looking to add 2 more soon, then 2 more during flowering for a total of around 220 watts. I've flowered w/ less and had decent results...
   
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#317424 - 11/17/09 04:13 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 weeks update!
Smaller plants are 10 days.
Looking great, growth rate is high.
  
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Inverted
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#318887 - 11/19/09 09:24 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay so tonight I went to Wal-Mart and they actually had a pretty decent lighting selection, although they only had MV ballasts and NO MH or HPS... Kinda disappointing.
Anyways while I was there I found some nice 42w CFL's in the 2700k spectrum 
So I picked up 2, which brings the total to 42+42+30+30+30+30=200+watts of warm color light, so I should be OK until my HPS arrives in time for the majority of the flowering cycle.
Here's a little sneak peak at how they are doing... Growing more and more every day!
What do ya think?
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#319367 - 11/20/09 07:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inverted said:
What do ya think?
Wow, you're right I am proud! Man they're just taking off! Can't wait for flowering 
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
#320712 - 11/23/09 08:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You and me both Fox!!!
Here's the ScrOG screen I made and plan to install in a week, which should be 3-4 days before I flip the lights.
Some are already showing sex! I can't wait to get the males out of there and free up the room they so deperately need to get a transplant and stretch their arms (branches, fan leaves) and feet (root system).
  
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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#326440 - 12/03/09 10:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Finally i'm able to bring you a picture update!
I was in the dark cycle (day 6) so I didn't want to go flashing them in the face a bunch so I just snapped a couple candid shots to give you an Idea.
I think I actually have 2 Haze females, unless the plant that looks identical to it (skinny sativa leaves) is a different pheno of the Chrystal, but that seems unlikely as ALL of the Chrystal plants were nearly identical.
The new box is 90% done. Just need to silicone the cracks and paint her with another coat and then mount the CFL's until the HPS gets here!
I'm getting really really excited, and these plants stink more than any strain i've ever grown!
Enough talk for now. Here's the goods! 
     
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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#326620 - 12/04/09 11:18 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I come bearing photos!
Now that the lights are on I can take a better shot. I still don't take much time at all though, because nothing is really worth examining too closely just yet, although nodes have starting growing hairs on the 2 Haze Females, and All plants except for one have showed their sex, and out of 15 plants, I gave my GF 1, so out of the original 14 that I HAVE, only 4 were females!!! WTF is up with that? I'm guessing the last will be female, as all of the males showed early, as usual.
That's only a 33% ratio... that blows. Oh well that is actually alright because now I can put 4 plants in my new box, they will grow larger because they will have more space and more light, so I'll be expecting 1oz per plant now, especially because of how these Chrystal yield... Pretty heavily. The buds also can be rock hard if the right pheno is obtained, which I seemed to try to isolate with this group, I have at least 2 of them. The Haze won't yield quite so much, but they are also larger than the Chyrstal by at least 4-5 inches, but is intended more for a head stash than anything. I have trouble wake n baking with heavy Indica's.
I actually think that these haze seeds were pollinated by a chrystal male, because Lucid said he left a Chrystal male too long. That would be great because it would hopefully shorten the flowering time and height of the plant, while still holding some of that Sativa effect. Plus the smell was out of this world. Smelled of pure blueberries.
If the 5th plant is a female, i'm going to have to get rid of it unless I can figure some alternate way to grow it...
The bushiness of those in the cups is unreal. Note the leaf stacking! They are definitely taking on the characteristics of the parent plants! I love the kerosene smell they emit... so strong. They have got to be nearly a pure Indica, but I thought that WW was 50% Sativa or something? I'm seeing no Sat. traits in any of the Chrystal...
Anywhoooo I have a good feeling these are going to turn out fantastic, and that makes me smile!
I can't believe I can get away with that much rootspace and still get decent results! The last picture is the best, fastest growing plant, and is a male, so he has been selected for breeding with the Haze, and also with another Chrystal. I believe I got that seed mixed up and it may be an Afghani male because it's not like ANY of the Chrystal in any way. Either way he has great traits, and I desire them.
Here we go! (Day 6 flowering, Total-Day 33 Haze/29 Chrystal)
       
Edited by Inverted (12/13/09 12:22 AM)
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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: MFDoom666]
#327100 - 12/04/09 09:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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sorry for the shitty pics, i'm still trying to figure the camera out.
check out this mutant jalapeno i bought awhile ago.
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FurrowedBrow said:
They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#328280 - 12/07/09 05:15 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a little early for a picture update, as I like to leave at least a week between updates, but I have continued to improve the new box, with silicone caulking and another coat of white sealant as stated above.
The transplants went great and they should love their new space. Some are in 1 gallon and others in 2 gallons. I'm testing what is the optimum amount of rootspace, while still maintaining floorspace.
Well here's where it's at!
   
I'm getting excited! They stink so much, i'm not concerned about concealing it though.
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#330147 - 12/12/09 12:33 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I know I suck, I didn't take pictures because the plants were in their dark cycle. I also didn't do any work because i've been stoned as fuck and can't seem to stop chatting with all of my friends. So the work is going to have to be done in the morning and I don't have a choice on this matter!
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
#330289 - 12/12/09 12:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Update! I don't remember but I think it's day 14 flowering.
I don't know why but my fucking annoying stretchy ass Haze ladies are flowering faster than the Indica Dom. plants!? Don't get that at all but here is some pics.
That fucking box is way too heavy to be moving again, not to mention up the stairs... fuck that.
   
CFL's will be added tonight or tomorrow when i'm not lazy. I feel like that was plenty of work for Saturday morning.
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#330421 - 12/12/09 05:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you train them by tying, you should be able to get the screen on fairly easy after a week. but it would be essentially the same as tying at that point. next round start tying them earlier and you can get those scrog results your looking for...
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#330577 - 12/13/09 12:36 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can anyone help me guestimate how large the bushier plants might get? I mean they were vegged for 24 days, and have about 8-10 nodes, with the largest branches about 4 inches long with 3 nodes each. I've never grown this far into the flowering cycle indoors before so I don't have a clue how much they might stretch before they settle into bud production. I'd have to imagine that they flower faster indoors due to constant variables and maximum hours of light.
Can anyone help me guess how large they will get? I'm just getting flustered trying to imagine how branchy they will get, I always forget do the branches keep growing during the first half of flowering or do they stay relatively the same size that they were at the end of Veg???
Please anyone comment on this. I'm hoping to spark up a conversation on the subject!!!
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
#331610 - 12/15/09 02:06 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not, it's too late into flowering to start weaving them through a screen.
Could cause too much stress and stunt their growth, and I definitely don't want to chance a hermaphrodite. I am however slowly tying down those sativa bastard children, but not anything too serious that could cause stress.
I'm basically going to work them so gently that they don't even notice that they've been adjusted.
Here's a non-HPS shot. The indica's are slower to flower for some reason!? They were 3-4 days younger than the tall ones, but they were slightly stunted from being rootbound I think?
Would that slow down the initiation to flowering if I transplanted a couple days after making the flip?
They just now seem like they made the switch to flowering, whereas the older ones had preflowers when I switched them which is why I think they are taking off. Either way I'm not concerned and they are doing just great. A little heat stress on the top leaves of the Haze, but they will be fixed very soon. All in all i'm very pleased right now, and the smell is getting pretty strong. 
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
#331858 - 12/15/09 04:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok sooooo,
Here's a picture of my left hand, normal and healthy, and my broken hand. It's quite obvious...  I need to control my temper.
Anyways I know it's definitely not time for an update, but since the grow has changed I might as well.
So I put (2) 42w 2700k and (2) 30w 3000k CFL's in with the HPS (~300watts total) since my Veg box only needs 60w right now to get my seedlings going. I hope this helps. I can't really see any way it would harm them, because heat is perfectly within check at 72 degrees.
I tied down the 3 stretchy phenos and they have already made the turn for the light. I'm happy with the results already, looking a lot more clean and respectable when the canopy is reasonably even.
I'm pretty happy at this point with how it's going, although I could have trained them better in veg, and should have transplanted earlier as I can tell it stunted them. Well here's something to look at, I know that's what most people care about anyways...
      
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
#333718 - 12/19/09 06:24 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm far too impatient of a person to keep the updates to a full 7 days.
Day 21 Flowering. The end of the 3rd week already... My sativas are flowering at a much quicker rate, but I also transplanted them a week before switching to flowering, whereas with the others were transplanted at the start of flowering which stunted the 2 most indicas and they just now have a good enough root mass to sustain quick flowering growth. In the last 3 days they have all started to speed up which is nice to see. Even the Haze is packing on the calyx's like nobody's business.
What do you guys think so far? Get the HPS closer? It's 5-6 inches from the plants.
Here's my 2 favorite Chrystal plants. Notice the Ind Sat differences...
 
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