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 Budmanman
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 HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! Turns out ocean forest is 6.8 I transplanted! 
#298855 - 10/16/09 11:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok I have always watered with 6.5-6.7 water.
I always notice tho that my waters ph when stored goes up as it sits and I have to re ph it a lot.
But my soils ph when I run my watering here with 1000 ppm feeding of grow big ff nutes.
WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?
I am about to run some 7.5 Water through it and re ph it up higher and see were the soil is at at that point. then get the ph of the soil 6.6.
WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?
Edited by Budmanman (10/18/09 02:07 AM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298860 - 10/17/09 12:13 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok I am trying to rais one plants ph I keep watering it with
11.55 PH over and over and all the water that drains out is 5.4 now its finally 5.7 what the fuck.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298863 - 10/17/09 12:18 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What kind of soil is it
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298865 - 10/17/09 12:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok now im trying 12.55 water cause the ph didnt even budge from 7.2 from the last time I did 11.
I wish I could get answers faster cause this problem needs to be fixed immediately.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298878 - 10/17/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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If your soil is heavy on peat it will steadily become more and more acidic...answer mhbound's question.
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Budmanman said:
But my soils ph when I run my watering here with 1000 ppm feeding of grow big ff nutes.
This sentence doesn't even make sense...explain
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298880 - 10/17/09 12:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow so i ran the same water through it a bunch and the ph reads 5.5 again
I CAN NOT CHANGE THE PH OF THE SOIL ITS SELF WHY????
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298881 - 10/17/09 12:48 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ADDED A WHOLE CAP FULL OF PH UP INTO IT RAN THE WATER THROUGH THE SOIL AND DRAINED IT AND RE RAN THE DRAIN WATER THOUGH IT OVER AND OVER
IT STILL 5.5 ITS FOX FARM HAPPY FROG I AM GETTING VERY FRUSTRATED I HATE SOIL
I USED TO GROW HYDRO AND MUCH EASIER I AM PISSED THIS IS ONE OF MY 2 MOMS
MY OTHER MOM HAS A SOIL PH OF 5.3 AND IM WORRIED BUT OTHER THAN THAT THERE GREEN I MEAN LOOK
        
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298882 - 10/17/09 12:51 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey. chill.
turn off the caps lock.
you're not accomplishing anything.
Have you considered that you have a broken pH meter and that you are now killing your plants with pH up?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298883 - 10/17/09 12:54 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hate that pH up and down shit...Try using hydrated lime or something...
I use hydrated lime at a teaspoon a gallon. I water with plain water, then flush with the hydrated lime water a few times then finish with a final watering of slightly fertilized solution, about half strength of normal.
Some say baking soda work but I've never used it
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: mhbound]
#298884 - 10/17/09 12:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Or what he said...Are you using the strips? They are the most reliable unless you buy a good ass digi PH deal
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: 81renaissance]
#298885 - 10/17/09 12:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
81renaissance said:
hey. chill.
turn off the caps lock.
you're not accomplishing anything.
Have you considered that you have a broken pH meter and that you are now killing your plants with pH up?
it reads 7.00 with my reference solution
and 4.00 with my 4.00 reference solution its fine.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: mhbound]
#298886 - 10/17/09 12:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Or what he said...Are you using the strips? They are the most reliable unless you buy a good ass digi PH deal
I got a good ph meter self calibrating pen for 161 dollars at the hydro shop.
does a grower sponsor sell hydrated lime? Which one?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298893 - 10/17/09 01:09 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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man this is my worst nightmare with how much I have invested into this.
I might just take a clone and build a bubble bucket and get some General hydro and veg that into a new mother.
I mean I just built an aero cloner anyway.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298894 - 10/17/09 01:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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A soiless mix is all I use...Adjusting pH for someone who has never used soil can be a fucking nightmare and once its gone too far its a bitch to get back...You aren't too bad off right now you can still adjust it and I'm trying to come up with the best thing but I'm fucked up as hell and I've never used the soil you mention so I'm trying to read about it.
A quick search on the internet and you can find cheap hydrated lime I wouldn't buy it from a hydro place they will probably mark up the prices trying to make an extra dollar
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298896 - 10/17/09 01:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just ran the same water through it with 2 cap fulls and it read 7.00
so i'm running that water through it 3more times again.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298897 - 10/17/09 01:18 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298900 - 10/17/09 01:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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this is wack hydro fo life.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: mhbound]
#298901 - 10/17/09 01:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wait, I don't understand why you're still boosting it if its at 7.
Is that because it'll drift back down again?
I'm so out of my depth when looking at inorganic grows.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: 81renaissance]
#298902 - 10/17/09 01:24 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wondered the same thing...But he doesn't seem to respond so I didn't say anything
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298903 - 10/17/09 01:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh what do you know its back to 5.3 again HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
FOX farm soil is garbage,
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298905 - 10/17/09 01:27 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ran the water through it 2 more times cause its draining so slow now from running water through it so much.
The PH is now reading its normaly 5.3 gajjjjasdasfsgdghdgh
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298906 - 10/17/09 01:27 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can not get the PH to go up for my LIFE!!!
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298909 - 10/17/09 01:30 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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you should just change this thread title to
"Badmanman is spazzin' out and needs to smoke a fuckin' bowl"
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298911 - 10/17/09 01:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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It needs to sit for awhile. The soil is saturated to the point it isn't going to absorb anymore its just going to let it run through.
FOX farms is the only soil I recommend...I mean there are others but its the first I recommend.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298915 - 10/17/09 01:45 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman, you clearly need to read up on what pH actually is an how it works because you randomly adding water of a different pH value expecting it to work like simple addition is just plain incorrect.
I'm kinda drunk right now so bear with me, but pH stands for "power of Hydrogen" and it's the inverse log of the concentration of Hydrogen+ ions in solution. the issue with H+ is that it's extremely attracted to other ions (because of its positive charge) so unless it has a reason to get removed (ie, an alternative cation to replace it on the bonding site, or an even more attractive cation grabbing medium to coax it off of it's current bonding site) it's just going to stay put.
adding random high pH solution (rich in OH- ions) doesn't sufficiently neutralize the enormous quantities of H+ ions, you need to find something to actually catalyze a change in the overall soil ecological interaction.
wow, I have a feeling that attempt at an xplanation fails miserably
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298916 - 10/17/09 01:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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once you get going with soil and your using compulsive calculated feeding cycles.. you can pretty much tell when theres a pH problem, eyeball small amounts of vinegar [for acid] and baking soda [for alkaline] :if you use a lil nutes each weak on your plants, and the solution is alkaline.. add a cap full of vinegar to your gallon.
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and if you're working with baking soda and vinegar you always need to let it sit for a couple hours before you feed it to your plants, and then sit a little longer in the soil before you test the runoff because the reaction is not instant
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Quote:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
budmanman, you clearly need to read up on what pH actually is an how it works because you randomly adding water of a different pH value expecting it to work like simple addition is just plain incorrect.
I'm kinda drunk right now so bear with me, but pH stands for "power of Hydrogen" and it's the inverse log of the concentration of Hydrogen+ ions in solution. the issue with H+ is that it's extremely attracted to other ions (because of its positive charge) so unless it has a reason to get removed (ie, an alternative cation to replace it on the bonding site, or an even more attractive cation grabbing medium to coax it off of it's current bonding site) it's just going to stay put.
adding random high pH solution (rich in OH- ions) doesn't sufficiently neutralize the enormous quantities of H+ ions, you need to find something to actually catalyze a change in the overall soil ecological interaction.
wow, I have a feeling that attempt at an xplanation fails miserably
Not bad...Best response yet but he doesn't really answer anyone he just starts talking to himself I think...Not sure.
Adding something to the soil is the way to go but also a little more difficult if you've never done it so I dun wanna kill his plant in a few hours and it be my fault...
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298922 - 10/17/09 02:09 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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So how much hydrated lime do I use? Per watering?
Do I add it to the water or just put it on top of the soil and water?
I only tried adjusting one plant.
and its one that has not done as good as my other mom.
I only know its female from pref flowers.
The weakest of my 5 plants has not sexed yet.
So I got 1 unless with nice mommy. unless it ends up Hermie.
Edited by Budmanman (10/17/09 02:09 AM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: mhbound]
#298925 - 10/17/09 02:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Teaspoon per gallon is what I use
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298926 - 10/17/09 02:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Or is baking soda a better alternative?
And again on top of soil or added to the water I water with?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: mhbound]
#298927 - 10/17/09 02:11 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
mhbound said:
I hate that pH up and down shit...Try using hydrated lime or something...
I use hydrated lime at a teaspoon a gallon. I water with plain water, then flush with the hydrated lime water a few times then finish with a final watering of slightly fertilized solution, about half strength of normal.
Some say baking soda work but I've never used it
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298931 - 10/17/09 02:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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so after doing that 1 time will it be cured or may it need to be done again?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298932 - 10/17/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Allow your plants to drain properly maybe for a day and let the pH adjusting take effect and then try the hydrated lime...After doing the lime let it sit overnight and recheck the pH...If you need to do it again then do it again and so on. I would rather have a pH a little too low(like yours) than too high
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: mhbound]
#298933 - 10/17/09 02:21 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok cool I now need to find a place to buy this stuff.
i wonder if stubers distributing has it. they always have ok prices.
or home depot maybe
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298937 - 10/17/09 03:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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doitbest.com
If you live somewhere that the soil is acidic you should be able to find the hydrated lime locally fairly easily..Or if you live somewhere with a good hydro shop you should be able to find it cheap enough to buy locally since you need the stuff asap
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#298984 - 10/17/09 05:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try to run alot of water threw the soil? maybe to much acids inside.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: dstark]
#298992 - 10/17/09 09:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try to run alot of water threw the soil? maybe to much acids inside.
Did you just ignore the entire thread, skip to the bottom and make a post?!
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: 81renaissance]
#298997 - 10/17/09 10:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think budmanman has run enough water through his soil to last a few weeks worth of watering.
to the OP - You need to stop approaching this like a hydro grow. Fixing a problem does not produce an instantaneous result. You need to do what you think you need to do to fix the problem, then let it sit for a day or two, then test again. Otherwise you're just going to kill your plant by trying to fix the problem.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: coda]
#299481 - 10/17/09 10:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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WOW YOU GUYS WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS!
 
FOX FARM HAS A PH OF 4.8 RITE OUT OF THE BAG!
THIS IS HAPPY FROG SOIL.
I have a unopened new bag of ocean forest what PH is that stuff???
CAUSE HAPPY FROG IS WACK!
Oh yea and a ppm of 1700 lol but the plants are growing how so with these odd conditions?
Edited by Budmanman (10/17/09 10:33 PM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299496 - 10/17/09 11:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh and you know the plant I ran tons of ph up through.
I ran plain water through it just now and it has a ph now of 5.7
A good increase but still not high enough.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299531 - 10/18/09 02:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok SO i took my 2 moms and took a shower with them
Rinsed off all the dirt every bit I could probably damaged a few roots
and down the drain happy frog went.
Then I transfered to ocean forest.
this ocean forest starts with a ph of 6.8.
after transplanting into new soil I packed it a bit and watered it with 6.6
and tested the run off....
6.6..
Soooo lesson learned happy frog is crap garbage.
maybe you could add 5% happy frog to ocean forest to get the mycrobs growing in it.
But i fear even that much of that ph 4.8 crap will ruin the ocean forest.
This transplant was a good idea rite?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299536 - 10/18/09 02:59 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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First of all, you can't measure the ppm of soil 
Secondly, I hope you didn't damage the roots too much, but if you didn't then your plant should be happy
third, stop being so intense, plants grow themselves, caring for them too much is definitely the worse option
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soil.
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down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves,
the haunted frightened trees, out to the windy beach,
far from the twisted reach, of crazy sorrow.
yes the dance, beneath the diamond sky, with one hand waving free,
silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands,
with all memory and fate, driven deep beneath the waves,
let me forget about today, until tomorrow."~bob dylan
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Budman, you started out making me laugh with your spastic intensity, but you just use these forums to ask questions to which you don't listen to the answers, and to type freak outs in all caps. IMO you don't bring anything positive to the community.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: 81renaissance]
#299647 - 10/18/09 02:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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what are you talking about!
I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT FOX FARM HAPPY FROG HAS A BAD BAD PH!!!!!
AND THAT OCEAN FOREST IS DAMN GREAT SHIT PH IS IN CONTROL ON THIS SHIZZZIIITTEEEE!!
you only wish you knew this factual information your self.
Edited by Budmanman (10/18/09 02:27 PM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299648 - 10/18/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you even google fox farm happy frog you will notice about 70% whether they have even used happy frog or not
have a bias that its crap.
now join me in this bias
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Budmanman
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299649 - 10/18/09 02:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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what will the plant do though if during the transfer the roots were damaged badly.
the only time during transfer that I noticed something bad was when I couldn't get some of the thick dirt to break up and I shoved my thumb into it and I heard a root or few rip.
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tophernotsocool
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299669 - 10/18/09 03:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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stick to potatoes brotha
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silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands,
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Budmanman
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nah ill stick to deese
and weed
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299697 - 10/18/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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why do you always post in 3's? get all your thoughts in order for one post please
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299704 - 10/18/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Budmanman said:
mmmmmmmm....penis. 
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#299705 - 10/18/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
FurrowedBrow said:
mmmmmmmm....penis.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand welcome to my signature
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Hot damn! just like the media up in here, you are. 
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#299833 - 10/18/09 07:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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The side branches are already growing much faster in the ocean forest.
My plants lower leafs have always died off and I am sure it was that unhappy frog soil.
I expect to see much less leaf fall off with this OF soil.
in fact I even transplanted the other 3 plants today to OF.
Edited by Budmanman (10/18/09 07:48 PM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299994 - 10/19/09 12:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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FINAL FINAL REVISED FINAL RESULTS ARE IN!!!
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HAPPY FROG RESULTS DISSOLVED IN HAGEN DISTILLED WATER!!! NOT RUN OFF!
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NOW
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OCEAN FOREST DISSOLVED IN HAGEN DISTILLED WATER!!!!
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THE RESULTS CAN NOT BE DENIED!!!
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#299996 - 10/19/09 12:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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as you can see my meter is pretty acurate but for some reason anything I ph with it without fertiliser or soil in it the ph always slowly goes down and then normaly stops.
Like it said 7.03 when I first put it in and it slowly went down to 6.98
to 6.89 and then stopped at 6.87..
Why does it do this?
I have only had it for about a month.
I use the storage solution and cleaning solution according to instructions.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#300045 - 10/19/09 04:52 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meters suck plain and simple. Your going way overboard. Just be sure the ph of the nutrient is good and you will be fine or you can keep trying futile efforts to keep the ph at the exact same level in soil. Now I do like your results but as you like to say "THE RESULTS CAN NOT BE DENIED!!! "
 
By the way the stuff used to adj the ph plants fucking hate so give it up bud cause it's not gonna happen. Your never gonna get the ph of the soil dialed in cause ph of soil will change as it dries or as the plants use the nutrients. Water goes down faster ph goes down. Nutrients get used faster ph goes up. You can't do shit to stop this so stop trying.
Try and keep the soil in a tolerated zone. 5.5 to 6.7 wouldn't be all that bad a zone. If your looking for total control the get rid of the soil and go hydro. Only way your gonna do it period. 
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Magash]
#300950 - 10/20/09 05:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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now I know a transfer to new soil especially if you rinse away all the old soil can be stressful on a plant.
But now the lower part of the plant the older leafs are light green and starting to yellow.
So it seems like a N deficiency but this soil is suppose to be hot.
I watered with 6.6 water no nutes when transferring.
Do you think its doing this cause it needs to be fed?
Or is it doing this cause the roots need to spread through out the new soil?
I mean since the transfer all the root mass is now concentrated down the center of the pot.
Ideas suggestions?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#300951 - 10/20/09 05:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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yah, one suggestion
LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE.
There, i said it. Seriously man, give your plants some damn time to recover and establish in their new pots. Smoke a bowl, relax, and give it a day or so before you come back to it again. You're growing in soil, things take more time to adjust then they do in hydro. You go crazy like you just did with the damn PH and you'll just make things worse.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: coda]
#300956 - 10/20/09 05:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is a pick
So you think the discoloration is just it adjusting?
Edited by Budmanman (10/20/09 05:08 PM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#300964 - 10/20/09 05:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Man, after all the shit you put your plant through who knows what the issue is.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: coda]
#300971 - 10/20/09 06:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did not do anything to this plant but transfer it.
it was another plant I used the ph up on.
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coda
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#300984 - 10/20/09 07:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hard to say, but it looks like classic N def.
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 Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#301027 - 10/20/09 08:37 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Washing away the soil and breaking roots is probably enough to put it in sock for awhile.
Let it recover for 3 or 4 days.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: KaptKid]
#301114 - 10/20/09 11:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
KaptKid said:
Washing away the soil and breaking roots is probably enough to put it in shock for awhile.
Let it recover for 3 or 4 days.
Quoted For Motherfucking Truth
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The best advice is.
Don't fuck up from the start.
Pre Plan all stages.
Give ample space.
Good soil.
Good nutrients.
Be sterile.
Good genetics.
Adequate Lighting
NO BUGS
NO MOLD
NO MIRACLE GROW
FOX FARM maybe isn't the best?
*Also look at the conditions of your grow. Your growing in peroxide bottles. WTF. T
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Edited by Ero42oH2o (10/21/09 10:47 AM)
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Ero42oH2o]
#301125 - 10/20/09 11:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh yeah, I corrected the typo?
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Ero42oH2o]
#301700 - 10/22/09 06:38 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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what is wrong with a 16 oz bottle with holes in the bottom for drainage.
Perfect size for a sog.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#301935 - 10/22/09 05:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'd go with 1 gal containers for SOG, but that's just me. Hell, you can flower a plant in a beer pong cup if you're skilled enough. Mag's done it with the pictures to prove :P
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: coda]
#302065 - 10/22/09 09:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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So here she is now. Growing slowly but the yellowing appears to have halted.
and here is my other mom just found out she is femail.
as you can see she did not mind the transfer one bit crazy.
still growth is slow for her but I am sure once it can handle nutes again it will haul ass.
This plants shown that its weak from the get go another one also sucked even worse.
it sure did not like the transfer.
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Re: HELP MY SOIL PH IS 5.3!!! [Re: Budmanman]
#302873 - 10/24/09 02:33 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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any thoughts?
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