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 Magash
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 Ladybugs 
#290381 - 10/02/09 02:15 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, I love these guys but if your gonna use them to take care of a bug problem you have to do it as soon as you see signs of the bad bugs. Aphids, thrips (in some cases) and a few of the others like whitefly larvae cause none of these is all that fast of a breeder. Then comes the spider mite. Remember a ladybug can eat about 10 of these a day. The mite is a way faster breeder then that. Hell if you see webs you already have them in the thousands (I'm being nice here the number is higher) and that is gonna take a lot of ladybugs.
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 Re: Ladybugs [Re: Magash]
#290445 - 10/02/09 07:02 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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So if you already have lots of pests just put your plants in a tent and fill it with millions of ladybugs
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Magash
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He he he.....yeah I guess you can pull that off. Better then fishing them out of your lights. Geo-lite if you use it and anyplace they can crawl into. Cause when they get rid of the pest prob there gonna starve and die off. 
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Magash]
#291068 - 10/03/09 10:07 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hate spider mites with a passion. It's time to develop
a hulk ladybug that mows those fuckers down
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captain.koons
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Magash]
#301644 - 10/21/09 11:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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A lady bug may eat 10 a day. A larva however eats up to 4000 mites over the course of 2 weeks(3?) I assume 2 as the larva stage is where most of the eating occurs and lady bugs live 2-3 weeks indoors.
I don't know if you meant a lady bug can eat 10 aphids a day. Aphids can be a considerable amount bigger than spider mites.
I'm also quoting Maximum Yield magazine. I however sourced similar information when investigating these claims.
Spidermites multiply very fucking fast, they can lay 20 eggs a day for 15-30 days and those eggs can hatch in 2 days and those baby mites can reproduce in 5days. Four generations of optimal growth is billions of spider mites. However nothing really reproduces at an optimal theoretical rate even intentionally. FYI The above figures are under conditions your plants would typically provide.
Food for thought. E.coli can multiply as often as once every 20 minutes, after a span of 24hours you would more than modestly have 80 000lbs of E.coli assuming this rate of reproduction didn't plateau.
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Triptonic
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Whoever wants ladybugs I will ship them to you for free lol. They are literally everywhere right now.
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captain.koons
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Triptonic]
#301672 - 10/22/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder if they would pass customs. I wouldn't mind keeping a giant supply of them if I figured out how to raise and maintain a large population.
I'm going to look into keeping predator mites and lady bugs maybe praying mantises too.
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WinterRose
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 Re: Ladybugs [Re: Magash]
#370803 - 02/22/10 04:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love ladybugs =)
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captain.koons
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whoa 4 month bump 
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Harry_Ba11sach
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does anyone know how long it takes ladybugs to starve to death? IIRC spidermites have a 4 day rolling generational cycle so it would be nice if the ladybugs could stick around long enough to eat their children... or do you need to get several shipments of bugs to eat all of the generations?
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Triptonic
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They ship you like 1500 of them at a time lmao!
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captain.koons
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Quote:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
does anyone know how long it takes ladybugs to starve to death? IIRC spidermites have a 4 day rolling generational cycle so it would be nice if the ladybugs could stick around long enough to eat their children... or do you need to get several shipments of bugs to eat all of the generations?
I think they kick around longer than that. I've kept a few in my garden but never had to get them in large numbers and they seemed to have stuck around fairly long. I think they may eat non insect meals when there's nothing else around. No idea though not even going to google if they do I just suspect so.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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hmmm...you mean non insect meals, aka your plants right? if you're right about that then it would be a serious drawback...
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Triptonic
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No they dont eat plants I dont think. But maybe......haha.
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Triptonic]
#370819 - 02/22/10 04:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Triptonic
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Ladybugs don't eat fabric, plants, paper or any other household items. They like to eat APHIDS. Aphids are very small, but very destructive pest that feed on plants. (If you have rose bushes, you have probably seen aphids.) Ladybugs, while trying to hibernate in your house, live off of their own body fats. They, also, prefer a little humidity. But our homes are usually not very humid during the winter. In fact, they are rather dry causing most of your ladybug guests to die from dehydration. Occasionally, you might witness a ladybug in your bathroom getting a drink of water. Now, that's a smart lady!
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Triptonic]
#371404 - 02/23/10 10:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know this is an old bump but god i just love lady bugs they are soo fucking cute and shit, no but seriously I do believe lady bugs can survive a week or so with no bugs to eat. my daughter caught a few with some caterpillars last year and the lady bugs far outlived the caterpillars. wish i had payed more attention now lol
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shags420
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: pha3r0]
#371816 - 02/23/10 08:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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anybody have any advice on using lady bugs indoors?
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Triptonic
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: shags420]
#371856 - 02/23/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldnt do it. But thats just me. It seems like they would get everywhere.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Triptonic]
#371858 - 02/23/10 09:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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we'll see if you feel that way after you have spider mites for the first time 
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Triptonic
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Well here we get these stupid asian beetles that look just like ladybugs, and they bite like a motherfucker. But they get everywhere in the winter. So I kill as many of them as I can. I might have killed some lady bugs in the process.
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: shags420]
#372046 - 02/23/10 10:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
shags420 said:
anybody have any advice on using lady bugs indoors?
I've been using them for 2 weeks now. They have helped a lot but not cured the problem. I have white flies.
Next time I will also get Pirate Bugs. Maybe not there $41 per 100.
Praying Mantis would be cool in a garden.
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Triptonic
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: KaptKid]
#372053 - 02/23/10 10:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've raised some praying mantises before, they are cool.
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pha3r0
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: Triptonic]
#372265 - 02/24/10 07:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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heh i have a few mantis pods i found around the garden during my clean up last year that I am saving in hopes they pop hundreds of little buggers come spring.
but on the ladybug thing from my time in pops' greenhouse i will tell you they do tend to go everywhere. when they get cold they fly up and die in your lights when they get thirsty they go and drown in your resivior it's just something you have to accept. the only other choices are neem oil which i am not sure will stop a full on mite invasion and pyrithrum sprays. It's either pick out a bunch of dead lady bugs or spray and pick out a bunch of dead mites.
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RasJeph
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: pha3r0]
#372301 - 02/24/10 08:38 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rofl. How did I not see this thread? Sorry guys. 
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DrGreenThumb
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: RasJeph]
#372306 - 02/24/10 08:49 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
RasJeph said:
Rofl. How did I not see this thread?
I wondered the same thing.
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dutc2006
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Re: Ladybugs [Re: KaptKid]
#373950 - 02/26/10 03:07 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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To KaptKid make sure you are removing the top layer of soil every couple days to get rid of the new white fly larvae. If you do this and kill the mature ones you should be rid of them pesky guys in no time. I'm fighting a spider mite problem right now on a couple of my plants. Luckily I caught it before it got to all of my plants. I'm using Azamax though, I wish I could rely on ladybugs to do the job.
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