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 uh oh! taco leaves 
#254063 - 07/24/09 05:27 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry the picture isent great, i was just wondering what to do about leaves that curl like a taco?
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 Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254098 - 07/24/09 06:25 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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horrible pic lol, i think you focused on the background.
Get a better pic and someone will help.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: azshroomer]
#254150 - 07/24/09 07:39 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think i know what you're trying to describe, but get a better pic. take a couple steps back and make sure you're focused on the plant, not the wall behind it. in the mean time, this will be moved to DD
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves (moved) [Re: Toke]
#254151 - 07/24/09 07:39 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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 This thread was moved from Marijuana Cultivation.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves (moved) [Re: Yrat]
#254286 - 07/24/09 09:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ph? Hard to say because as they stated... Blurry pics...
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254361 - 07/24/09 11:27 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah the pic sux so its hard to troubleshoot .....but it could be poor ventilation with a little somethin else....what are your temps....?
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these are better pics, sort of.. sorry.
basically the leaves after the top node on 2 of my plants are curling like a taco like a U .
some but not as many are curling like fishhooks at the tips.
harsh, dno what to do about it.
  
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254706 - 07/25/09 12:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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give more info dood........Quote:
it could be poor ventilation with a little somethin else....what are your temps....?
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sorry
26C
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fan in the bottom exhaust holes at top.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254716 - 07/25/09 01:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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well thats fine so im guessing stress from PH imbalance since its on the the new growth....what is the soil ph @?
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i aways check the ph level with, an indicator its 6.5.
I'm thinking magnesium deficiency?
if so what has magnesium in it?
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254741 - 07/25/09 01:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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id raise the PH a little bit more to 7 (ideal is 6.5 - 7.0) soils that are under 7 can cause a little bit of a MG deficiency and it shouldnt happen if you used dolomit lime when you transplanted...an Mg deficiency can be treated by watering with plant epsom salts, but im not 100% sure yet..... is there any rusty lookin spot on the older (lower) leaves? ....how long has this been going on? what is your PPM/TDS/EC level in your runoff because if its high that could have cause this too.....
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Quote:
Dr. Siekadellyk said:
...how long has this been going on? what is your PPM/TDS/EC level in your runoff because if its high that could have cause this too.....
not sure what this means lol,
maybe 2-3 days a couple of rust spots, I'm a bit more worried now.
cheers for the info tho
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254778 - 07/25/09 02:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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PPM/TDS/EC levels are the same thing just different measurements......it tells you how concentrated or diluted your nutrients are..... ....i think it may be an Mg dificiency but usually its rare, is the plant getting like more green by the day?....usually it takes like a month to even notice signs of Mg deficiency but to treat Mg feed 2 teaspoons epsom salts to one gallon of water, for a quick result foliar feed with 2 percent epsom salt solution....do that until the symptoms are gone....use a little diluted nute solution for like a week too....next time just add some top quality dolomit lime to your soil before planting....it will help Mg and calcium balance out in the long-run....also raise your solution PH just a tad when watering.....
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as in bath salts, hasn't that got other chems in as well?
they appears to be getting more dark green, only the fan leaves though.
the smaller leaves above the top node are lighter.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254812 - 07/25/09 02:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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alright now im pretty positive thats what it is.....and people do use it in the bath.......just go to a drug store or supermarket near you and ask for "epsom salt" A.K.A.(magnesium sulfate).....
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nice one thanks, ill go down there tomorrow, ill let you know what happens.
So all i need is epsom salts n that should sort it?
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#254822 - 07/25/09 02:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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that and what i said in the above posts  .....and if your using tap water dont forget to let it set out in an open container for like a day to let the chloromines evaporate before watering...
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Now it seems my plants have stopped growing all together.
i really hope they dont die
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#255387 - 07/26/09 09:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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well have you done anything to try and help them yet? even beside the salts...
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#255397 - 07/26/09 10:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol...thats why their not getting better ......yes that will do
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do you think i should flush them with plain water.
boil it up to sterilise it?
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#255427 - 07/26/09 11:58 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i would flush a little once just in case.....if its tap water just let the water set out overnight.......then when you feed again dilute it a little.......its better to have too little nutes than too much......raise the ph closer to 7.......
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Is the taco'ing happening right under your light? It looks exactly like heat stress to me; are you taking your temps right at the top of the canopy?
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Audz]
#256801 - 07/28/09 01:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats what i said but he said his temps are like not even 80 if i remember
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yea definately,
i got CFL's 4" above the top of the plants dont think it would be heat stress
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Audz]
#257063 - 07/29/09 10:26 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Audz said:
Is the taco'ing happening right under your light? It looks exactly like heat stress to me; are you taking your temps right at the top of the canopy?
I think you are exactly right. When my MH bulb was a little too close, my plants reacted exactly like yours until I got a fan blowing directly on the bulb itself and raised the light an inch. After 1-2 days the leaves laid back down flat like they should have. I think they fold up like that so they aren't absorbing as much heat because there is no flat surface to really absorb the light/heat. It kind of gets reflected when the leaves form a "V"... I don't think it's any kind of deficiency. Just too much light/heat. Move your lights 1-2" away from the tops and I am almost positive this will resolve your situation. Good luck!
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Inverted]
#257064 - 07/29/09 10:32 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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again....thats what I said but he said he taking the temps at the canopy and they are in the 70'sF......which isnt hot.....unless hes telling us false information....
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and anyway if i remember correctly hes using CFL's
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definately not heat stress because the lights are at least 200mm away from the tops of the two biggest plants and 400mm away from the smaller two.
and the smaller two have quite bad taco, but the bigger two have bad fish hooks.
its not the heat, i got a fan in there and all.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#257068 - 07/29/09 10:40 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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so have you like done anything to attempt to help them?
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i bought better nutes i was using 4 4.5 9, switched to 16 6 16.
my mag sulphate still not here I'm just hoping that when it arrives it will sort it out.
noticed purpleing of the stems N deficiency i reckon so i added piss.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#257076 - 07/29/09 11:10 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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dood what are you waiting for still?
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do what i said above
before you even use anything, the salts where a just to make sure thing, and you could have bought them at a local store so you didnt have to pay shipping......they could come in handy in the future also.......has it gotton worse/better/stayed the same? usually purple on the stem isnt bad at all unless it goes up through the veins of the leaves.....
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Looking Slightly better today, feeling more optimistic.
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Re: uh oh! taco leaves [Re: Toke]
#257631 - 07/30/09 10:32 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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kool, what did you do?
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just added mag sulphate.
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