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**Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS 1
#236180 - 06/03/09 10:43 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** [Re: FrozenReality]
#236229 - 06/04/09 12:27 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm definitely going to try this. Do you know why spraying this colloidal silver on the pistils makes them form pollen sacks that create feminized seeds??
As for silver. Would this do? http://www.lmine.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=183004&Category_Code=agfoil&Store_Code=LMS
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** [Re: MonsignorBerric]
#236234 - 06/04/09 12:36 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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that silver is pretty thin, I'm afraid the electrolysis will eat through that quickly. As mentioned below in this post, if you are not going to drink any of it than you could use sterling silver 92.5% purity. It can be found in many many products, many of which can be found at local hobby stores in the jewelry making section. By law jewelry and jewelry making products that contain fine metals has to lable the purity of the metal. usually this is stamped into the metal but also the packaging should have it clearly written on it also. The silver wire I use is 18 gauge and I have it coiled up. A silver dollar or silver bullion coin would work great for this, you could use two or just cut one into two pieces.
I have this exact same thread in another forum so ill quickly go through and copy things I have posted there into one thread which has additional useful information.
In my readings into the subject to gather more information. Allegedly the lower voltage and amperage adapters will produce a more potent CS that has less silver gunk falling out into the bottom. It is said that you should keep it between 9 and 12 volt and between 300 and 1500 ma. So go grab an old phone charger that you dont use and look at the side of the plug and it should say on it how strong it is. Also if you are not planning on drinking any of it sterling silver will be fine to use but using non distilled water is not an option.
and last of all, CS is said to work for this because "the silver inhibits hormones needed to produce a female flower, causing a male flower to be produced. This means that the pollen doesn't carry any altered genetic traits that lead to increased chances of growing into hermies or genetics that make a plant more likely to go hermie under stress."
So the fem seeds will have the same chance of turning hermie on a normal grow as they would if they were not fem seeds.
I'm yet to come across any unwanted hermy plants produced from this *knock on wood* and of the many places that this information has been contributed to, there has been many successful stories of this working and I have yet to seen anyone report any problems with beans being hermie.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** [Re: FrozenReality]
#236237 - 06/04/09 12:50 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry for double post but my internet is acting funny when I try to edit the above one. I dont want to post too many links to other sources of information on this so if you want to do a google search of "colloidal silver fem seeds" and other similar search terms you will be given loads of great information on the subject. Sadly the one site that had the most information including documented grows with pictures using CS was shut down (planetganja) so a lot of the really good useful information is gone. anyways here is a good tidbit of info
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Marijuana_Cultivation/Producing_Seeds
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Colloidal Silver (CS)
This is the least expensive and most privacy concious way to produce fem seed. CS has gotten a bad name because there is so much bad information spread around about its production and concentrations. It doesn't help that there are those who believe in drinking low concentration colloidal silver for good health and there is information mixed in about how to produce that low concentration food grade product. Follow the information here and you will consistently produce effective CS and know how to apply it to get consistent results.
Simply construct a generator using a 9-12v power supply (DC output, if it says AC then its no good) that can deliver at least 250ma (most wall wart type power supplies work, batteries are not recommended since their output varies over time). The supply will have a positive and negative lead, attach silver to each lead (contrary to internet rumors, you aren't drinking this is cheap 925 silver is more than pure enough) you can expose the leads by cliping off the round plug at the end and splitting the wires, one will be positive and the other negative just like any old battery. Submerge both leads about 2-3 inchs apart in a glass of distilled water (roughly 8oz). Let this run for 8-24hrs (until the liquid reads 12-15ppm) and when you return the liquid will be a purple or silver hue and there may be some precipitate on the bottom.
This liquid is called colloidal silver. It is nothing more or less than fine particles of silver suspended in water so it is a completely natural solution and is safe to handle without any special precautions. The silver inhibits female flowering hormones in cannabis and so the result is that male flowering hormone dominates and male flowers are produced.
To use the silver, spray on a plant or branch every three days prior to switching the lights to 12/12 and continue spraying until you see the first male flowers. Repeated applications after the first flowers appear may result in more male flowers and therefore more pollen. As the plant matures it will produce pollen that can be collected and used to pollinate any female flower (including flowers on the same plant).
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** [Re: FrozenReality]
#240373 - 06/17/09 09:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by FrozenReality (06/17/09 10:00 AM)
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** [Re: FrozenReality]
#240374 - 06/17/09 10:11 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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good thread!
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
#241512 - 06/20/09 11:23 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: FrozenReality]
#241513 - 06/20/09 11:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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did you add this to the document part of the site???
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
#241538 - 06/21/09 12:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr. Siekadellyk said: did you add this to the document part of the site???
Not sure what you are referring to?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: FrozenReality]
#241611 - 06/21/09 09:09 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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when you log onto the site...click on "general information" then click what folder and sub-folder that sounds like it would fit in......click add new.....copy/paste your paper ......viola
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: FrozenReality]
#241623 - 06/21/09 09:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is very cool! I wonder, if you pollinated a female of a different strain would you still get fem'd seeds??
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: drwatson]
#241646 - 06/21/09 12:01 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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drwatson said: This is very cool! I wonder, if you pollinated a female of a different strain would you still get fem'd seeds??
Yes you do. The sad part is that if you get a really good strain that you like from doing that, you wont have any males to do further work with it and I fear that using colloidal silver or any form of making plants go hermie you are risking watering down the genetic traits and making the newer generations less vigorous. Just a theory, not entirely sure. So basically Id rather cross a male and female of two plants then grow out some of the beans and then make fem beans of the second generation of the cross so you still have the original to go back to or to cross with down the road.
I'm growing out some darlings right now outdoors and once they start sexing I'll do take some pictures demonstrating how well the colloidal silver works.
Edited by FrozenReality (06/21/09 12:03 PM)
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: FrozenReality]
#249303 - 07/14/09 10:38 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm growing out some darlings right now outdoors and once they start sexing I'll do take some pictures demonstrating how well the colloidal silver works.
so hows that comin along?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: FrozenReality] 1
#715917 - 02/17/14 05:22 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bump.
A good write up on making CS.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#715936 - 02/17/14 07:06 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deadkndys420 said: Bump.
A good write up on making CS.
I got something for ya
You'll be reading this for a while
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Magash]
#715939 - 02/17/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah thats a good one too.
Question for you.
How many times a day did you spray your CS and also for how long to achieve this amount of sacs?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#715940 - 02/17/14 07:13 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Holy fuck that is one dank looking male flower.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#715955 - 02/17/14 10:34 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deadkndys420 said: Yeah thats a good one too.
Question for you.
How many times a day did you spray your CS and also for how long to achieve this amount of sacs?
Once every few days starting 1 week before putting into flowering. CS is good but I'd only use it to make seeds for myself. To go larger you need STS.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Magash]
#716190 - 02/19/14 11:20 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Magash...have you ever tried smoking a plant that you treated with CS? Ive read that you shouldn't but wanted to know first hand if it will really make you sick or taste bad.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#716372 - 02/20/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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bEelzeBosS said: Magash...have you ever tried smoking a plant that you treated with CS? Ive read that you shouldn't but wanted to know first hand if it will really make you sick or taste bad.
Nah, not even worth trying.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Magash]
#716403 - 02/20/14 11:50 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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people drink glasses of CS.... there is tons of sites/videos that claim its SUPER healthy. I dont think i would try it tho.
At the health store here, they got a whole section on it. pre made bottles of it (to drink), supplies to make your own....
I always think of that blue guy video tho
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: P-O]
#716418 - 02/20/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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What, the, fuck....
We can cross that off the list of things to drink, unless I want to spend the rest of my life role-playing a dark elf.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Inocuole]
#717646 - 02/25/14 08:02 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well my ending CS appears to be 20 ppm. Can't wait to see how it works.
24 hrs. later
Also anyone know the best way to store it?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#719410 - 03/05/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Made a second batch with less water that I used last time and got it up to 39 ppm.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#719413 - 03/05/14 06:55 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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you gonna try and produce some fem seeds?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: P-O]
#719416 - 03/05/14 07:13 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah.
Assuming these OG kush and Thais make it.
I also starting flowering a small maneater. If it turns out to be female I'll start spraying it.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#719604 - 03/06/14 05:59 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well that Maneater I flowered two weeks or so ago appears to be female. At least to me it does. It could just be the leaves though.
Gonna try out my CS on it.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#719651 - 03/07/14 12:16 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man, that thing is looking mighty sickly. I wouldn't try to flower it and get seeds until you have it in better shape.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#719662 - 03/07/14 06:34 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup it sure is but I dont plan on investing any more time on it. Might as well get seeds from it.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#719679 - 03/07/14 10:33 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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whats wrong with it?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: P-O]
#719685 - 03/07/14 11:14 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck if I know.
I transplanted it to ffof and the top leaves started turning a lighter green. Then the fan leaves started dying off. You can see how it looked a few weeks ago in my grow log.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#719727 - 03/07/14 02:20 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well you aren't going to get viable seeds by pollinating a stunted hurting plant.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#719733 - 03/07/14 03:35 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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If thats the case then I'll just collect the pollen and cross some plants with it.
Or would those seeds be not viable as well?
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Deadkndys420]
#719744 - 03/07/14 05:12 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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That would be a better choice. The even better choice would be to get that thing healthy before doing anything with it.
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: FrozenReality]
#725106 - 04/08/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok so here is a question about the length of silver wire.
In the original post the OP stated that he used a 5 or 6 inch piece of wire attached to his electrical supply for 12 hours.
If instead of using a 6" ( six inch) piece of silver wire for each side in the water solution, one was to use a 2 1/2' ( 30 inch) slice of wire would that reduce the time from say 12 hours 12/5 = 2. 4 hours?
Or will I be ok to just letting the colloidal mixture apparatus run for 12 hours and apply that concentration? ( which contain two 13 inch wires in a one quart mason jar attached to a 9 Volt dc 600mA power supply.
Thoughts?
I am wondering if
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: sloantbone]
#725625 - 04/12/14 06:23 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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so drink colloidal silver and turn blue... sweet! screw tattoos silly trinkets or trendy clothing! I'm going next gen
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: Midgetpawn]
#725646 - 04/12/14 08:53 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: **Tried and true way of making fem seeds with colloidal silver** UPDATED W/PICS [Re: P-O]
#725647 - 04/12/14 09:24 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Every time I forget about the blue guy someone bumps this and I have another lol-attack. I wonder how his wife feels about his blue penis.
That dude's a papa smurf if I ever saw one.
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