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Prior to cloning: Exposed clones will wilt within a few minutes, so it is best to have all materials ready before you start to take cuttings.
1.Dip scissors and razor blade into alcohol (Grease is used to separate razor blades). Wipe cutting board with alcohol.
2. soak RW cubes or Prop. plugs in either 5.8 or 6.2 PH'd water with about 5 drops of superthrive per gallon of water.
3. Drain cubes,by shaking as mentioned in the start from scratch gro guide, then place into tray.
4. Poke a 1/8" hole halfway into the center of each cube, unless there is already one that will fit the size clone you are taking.
4. Cover prepped cubes with dome, or put in a cup of PH balanced water until you are ready to start
Clone types Actively growing tops are preferred, as they contain the most growth hormones. Clones taken lower down are often spindly and less developed. I prefer 5-8" top clones with a 1/8" stem, 2-3 fan leaves and a slightly firm (but not yet woody) stem.
The clone should also be ' mature' ,with alternating leaves. Immature clones have leaves opposite each other and are usually pale and spindly.
Avoid stem cuts (no node) and plug cuts, as they do not root nearly as well (Roots form primarily at the nodes). Trim large fan leaves in half to minimize the leaf area the newly forming roots must support.
Selecting the clone (Where do I cut?) Select a vigorous growing top on the mother, cut the main stem just above a fan leaf / auxiliary shoot node. The cut can be done with trimming scissors or razor blade.
(Leaving a shoot and fan leaf on the mother allows the remaining shoot to continue growing and another shoot to grow from that node.)
Pre-Trim the raw clone: (Removing lower nodes) Once the growing top has been selected and cut from the mother, trim shoots and fan leaves from the lowest nodes. The lowest node will be inserted into the rockwool.
Cut 1/4 inch below the lowest node with the razor blade at a 45 degree angle on the cutting board for a clean cut.
The trimmed clone: A fan leaf and shoot were both removed at the lowest node. The clone will soon be inserted dipped into gel, then inserted into a rockwool cube.
Trim large fan leaves in half (Reduces transpiration; the newly forming roots don't have to initially support as much leaf).
Spray the clones daily and recover untill you see roots poking out of the cubes. I only spray the leaves and not the cubes. Let the cubes alone until they lose some moisture. When it comes time to water the cubes, fill a jug, or cup with clean PH'd water. NO NUTES ARE NEEDED for clone watering. If you use superthrive add 5-6 drops per gallon, and dip the RW cube about 1/4 of the way up the cube into the water. This allows the cube to absorb the water and only the lower half of the cube where it is needed. This prevents stem rot at the base of the clone where it meets the cube.
Quote: Divide said: How long would you say it takes on average for your roots to finish growing before you transplant them with this method?
Hey thanks for stopping by.....Great question!
On average, I can have visible roots protruding through the RW cube in about 5-7 days.A few spikes showing.
To really get a jump start on the growing process and eliminate the waiting game for the roots to hit the rez., I do the following:
1.Once roots are visible outside the cube, mix the same 3 parts perlite to 1 part vermiculite.
2.Fill the tray the clones are in or sometimes it is easier to fill another tray and move the clones at the end.
3. If you do the second tray method, fill the tray evenly with the mix.
4. Just like planting flowers outside, move some mix out of the way, big enough for the cube to sit in.
5. Pull mix back over and around the cube**This helps keep moisture in the cube but not too much water.
6. Do this with all the clones you have, then heavily spray the whole tray of mix with a spray bottle.***You do not want to pour water in the tray, it creates a pool of water to become stagnant in time and cause problems. The point is to moisten the mix, the cubes, and spray the dome really good.
7.Cover with dome, and in the winter months if it gets cold place on a heat mat ONLY IF YOU HAVE A THERMOSTAT CONNECTED TO IT, and set between 65-70 degrees Fahrenheit. if you notice any problems or feel it is too hot, drop the thermostat to the lowest setting....where mine currently is. In the summer months when it's warm, you do not need a heat mat. ****The mix in the tray will hold heat and create inside temps of the dome to reach deathly numbers to the fragile roots inside the mix.
I keep the clones in this setup for about a week after they get buried in the mix. The only downfall is, you may have to water them a few times a day at first until you reach the right moisture in the mix.
This is a great way to jump start clones, but should be done with caution, it is very touchy and could either get too wet or too dry really fast. This could lead to a whole tray of dead clones.
I have had this experience.....yes lost two whole trays of clones, 25 clones in each tray!!! If you want to attempt this method of cloning in a hempy tray, please feel free to contact me here for any questions or concerns you have, and i will try my best to help you.
Quote: Integra21 said: here's a chart as requested:
Hey thanks man! I cant give you a rating, cuz i don't have 50 post yet, but i wont forget ya when i get there! LOL! Thanks again!
The clones will be as ready to flower as the mother was when you took the clones, if you do flower right away you will probably get a single stalked plant no taller than maybe two or three feet (SOG STYLE). Unless your fudged on room or something I'd veg em first and get them strong before you flower them, but do what you think is best.
wow, this one fell off didnt it? If anyone has questions on the cloning guide, please feel free to post them here as i am checking in on this more often now. This is for noobs, so please no vets in here telling me how to do this.....Thanks
Quote: Magash said: Ypou could just use a mushroom chamber and automate the process.
Wanna take cuttings? Make a mushroom chamber the marthas type that ue a cool mist and a ultrasonic. Take the cuttings put them in the chamber and be sure the cool mist runs 24/7. the ultrsonic comes on every 8 hrs for 1.5 hrs. The job of the ultrasonic is to cover the cuttings with a layer of moisture. the ultrasonic uses a fog to cover the cuttings which is better then a mister cause it doesn't form big droplets on the leaves plus with the constant air flow you get way less fungus, molds and rotting that can take place on leaves when rotting cuttings. With this method you can also take them any size you want. here are some samples.
Like I said you can take them any size you want
This bacame this
Hey thats awesome, if you would start your own thread about it ,and not hijack mine, it be much appreciated, thanks
I asked the question to find out if anybody still used the thread, not an invitation to have somebody share their design and method of cloning without at least pming the OP first.
This is the reason i left 5 years ago, check out the original post from when this was opened, and you will see these people thanking me for the input i brought.
The guy wants to post up some clips and tell all about his new idea and creation with the shroom thingy.....sounds like he needs to open his own thread and share his ideas there,
Quote: Integra21 said: here's a chart as requested:
Here we can see how the process goes, this guy posted in the start..."info as requested"....See how simple that is, ask and if its relevant to my thread i will add it. In what way is your shroom box related to how i do clones and explained in the opening post??? Wait....it has a lid doesnt it...??? there's 1 for ya....
my apologies if i offended anyone, just used to the etiquette on my other site. Guess i need to get used to the layout here too.....this place is confusing. Again no offense, rudeness intended, it's a good idea, just your own idea, so i thought it should be something you should post about under your name, in a fresh thread, as to not clutter this one up.
I guess in the skinny of it, it is still a good idea to have posted here in a cloning thread, so share away. I guess if it makes organization better on the site to have less threads about cloning, and compile it all into one. Again,sorry, and let me know if i can help.