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 jellyfish
Registered: 04/20/08
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Last seen: 4 years, 7 months
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 Phenotypically different clone 
#157009 - 12/07/08 12:51 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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My friend took a cutting from a cannabis plant in early flowering last march and grew it into a beastly man-bush of a plant and then flowered it to get some awesome herb. While the plant was flowering (maybe like 3rd or 4th week) he took a cutting of it so he could start the whole process again. The cutting rooted and started growing fine under 24/0 but now it's new leaves are messed up.
The leaves barely look like cannabis, the leaflets are round and independent, they are not part of actual leaves they are just round single leaflets sticking out of the growing tip of the plant. The most obvious answer is that the clone was taken too late in the flowering cycle but I don't understand how some normal leaves could grow on the cutting and then it's phenotype changes completely and it starts growing abnormally. Because it's a clone, it should have the same genotype and since it's under the same conditions as the mama it should express the same phenotype as well.... right?
I don't think this could be due to telomere shortening as some people say it is because it's been less than a year since the original clone was taken (how long the previous grower had that plant is another story). Is it possible the previous grower had been taken clones of clones for a long time and my friend happened to get a clone that's like 10 generations away from the actual seed grown plant and that that is the cause of the mutation? He was planning on flowering that little baby (he only grows one plant at a time) and taking a clone of it just like how he was doing before. It's extremely sticky and crystaly (way more than you'd expect for a vegging clone) and it's really good genetics that he doesn't want to lose so the mutation is really bugging him.
Thanks for the help
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 Magash
The Feminizer
Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 6,634
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 Re: Phenotypically different clone [Re: jellyfish]
#157013 - 12/07/08 01:04 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I didn't have to read half the post to know what is up.
The plant is going threw reverting process. The leaves are gonna go all the way back to one blade just like a new seedling cause that is what it is fooled into thinking it is again so to say. Once back to one blade the count starts to go back up and growth will be normal. 
as far as the abnormal growth that will stop after a few weeks at the most. Just get the plant in the right conditions and it will be fine.
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just me
GreenThumb
Registered: 04/21/08
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Re: Phenotypically different clone [Re: Magash]
#157021 - 12/07/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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agreed ^
jellyfish: can we get some pictures?
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jellyfish
Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 67
Last seen: 4 years, 7 months
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Re: Phenotypically different clone [Re: just me]
#157270 - 12/07/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Thanks Magash, good to know it'll be fine. I'd post pictures but my friend is too paranoid to let me take pics and I don't really blame him.
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Dr. Penguin
Registered: 05/19/08
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Re: Phenotypically different clone [Re: jellyfish]
#158108 - 12/08/08 09:17 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Wow, thats cool; I wouldn't think reverting would start them at one blade. I wish we could get some pictures of that. Have you seen this before magash? I'd have to think that reverting is a stressful process, are they more likely to pop out some nanners now?
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jazzcatcf
midnight toker
Registered: 11/24/08
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Re: Phenotypically different clone [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#158209 - 12/08/08 03:00 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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nice call magash! ive never heard of that problem b4. another vote for pot porn!
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