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 obama is so great 
#140258 - 11/03/08 08:32 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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he's going to pay for all our gas and mortgages!! 
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Re: obama is so great [Re: usg543]
#140265 - 11/03/08 08:37 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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LOL, you gotta believe usg!
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Re: obama is so great [Re: usg543]
#140270 - 11/03/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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this is so fucking exiting..
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Re: obama is so great [Re: Skunk420]
#140272 - 11/03/08 08:42 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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"if i vote for him, he's gonna help ME!"
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Tangerines
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Re: obama is so great [Re: usg543]
#140275 - 11/03/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I'm scared  may actually win.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: Tangerines]
#140282 - 11/03/08 08:51 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I'm scared may actually win.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: usg543]
#140285 - 11/03/08 08:54 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Alright, so lets do another Bush term.
When you can't find a job, living out on your ass, and your parents are broke because of health problems, then you'll be wishing that monkey got in.
Enjoy your RFID and 6 bucks a gallon gas.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140289 - 11/03/08 08:56 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Actually, jobs will be harder if gets elected because he will be making taxes higher and making the minimum wage higher. Less money for companies to spend = less jobs available.
Anyways, I am going to college and will be able to get a job in my field because I'm smarter than the average Joe Plumber.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: Tangerines]
#140291 - 11/03/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Your saying that now, but this country doesnt know what my part is going through. Low sales taxes and too many min wage jobs cause people to spend nothing but their cash on bills, and bills doent really help overall business. This is soon to effect everyone the same.
To clear the table, i'm a Ron Paul guy, but Mccain? I should just sign up for the army and go to church.
I dont know what you do Tang, but if you got a good job, got your bills payed, and have time to chill out, consider yourself lucky. If you live with your mom, or your parents are paying your ass through college, fuck off. I dont know what you do but you never struck me as being smart enough to make more than a fry cook. I could be wrong, I dont really know you.
Edited by zippo420 (11/03/08 09:05 PM)
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usg543
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140292 - 11/03/08 09:08 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
zippo420 said:
Alright, so lets do another Bush term.
When you can't find a job, living out on your ass, and your parents are broke because of health problems, then you'll be wishing that monkey got in.
Enjoy your RFID and 6 bucks a gallon gas.
actually obama's tax plan closely resembles bush's. funny right?
anyways, obama wants to tax anyone (aka a family or business) jointly making 250,000 or more. this means:
1) it will slow economic growth
2) it will increase unemployment
3) you will still be paying that tax in the long run--customers pay taxes, not businesses, they just collect taxes for the government.
(check out how markets are reacting already: http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/an_obama_panic__133374.htm )
also, he wants to tax the rich more, who are already paying a great % more than the rest. some people pay NO taxes. how is this fair?
please remember we are a global marketplace. you might not have a higher education than highschool, but i'm sure you've heard of outsourcing, a response to globalization. well, if you tax the big businesses more they will just leave out country and set up a pseudo headquarters at a tax haven (island or country where they pay little to no taxes). this means we will be forcing business outside of the united states. that is not good for our economy, and we would receive little to no taxes from them that way.
(check this out: http://haroldblack.blogspot.com/2008/10/pardon-my-personal-distress-but-for.html )
another note: government is inefficient, unlimited resources and are not required to make a profit is a setup for disaster. ( http://mises.org/story/1471 )
last point: socialism has failed many times in history. capitalism has never failed.
p.s. when you said $6 bucks a gallon gas... i guess you don't realize that obama is against drilling for oil and wants to solely rely on foreign countries with foreign interest... this means higher prices. if we could tap into our own oil reserves we could get gas much cheaper. see how fucking rich the saudis are. it really is liquid gold.
basically by your points, you are voting for the wrong fucking person.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140293 - 11/03/08 09:08 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yea, my parents are helping me through college minimally. But most of my tuition is payed with scholarships that I earned. And as for only being smart enough for a fry cook?  Try biological engineering so how about you fuck off you presumptuous twat.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: Tangerines]
#140297 - 11/03/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Corps are out sourcing and avoid taxes by having there headquarters over seas and using that an excuse for not paying taxes. Any time we send shit to China we gotta pay them tax, but when they ship to us, they dont pay shit. How the fuck is that fair?
We need some regulations, and about taxing corps more and outsourcing, I see you point but Obama addressed that. If you outsource jobs you WILL pay more, but the tax breaks by employing more domestic people, with those tax cuts they'll be paying a hell of a lot less than they did before the Clinton administration.
We need REGULATION, which MC wont bring. THIS IS CAPITALISM RUN AMUCK
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140300 - 11/03/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Tax and spend
or borrow and spend?
I rather not drive our dollar down and put this country in the shit house. War in Iraq is lowering our dollar value every month. Gotta look at the bigger picture too
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140302 - 11/03/08 09:19 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
zippo420 said:
Corps are out sourcing and avoid taxes by having there headquarters over seas and using that an excuse for not paying taxes. Any time we send shit to China we gotta pay them tax, but when they ship to us, they dont pay shit. How the fuck is that fair?
have you ever heard of trade barriers, quotes, tariffs?? china is not part of NAFTA you ignorant fuck. the WTO helps moderate these things. what you said was entirely false.
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zippo420 said:
If you outsource jobs you WILL pay more, but the tax breaks by employing more domestic people, with those tax cuts they'll be paying a hell of a lot less than they did before the Clinton administration.
You didn't explain it properly, but I know what you are talking about. Outsourcing won't end. Do you know how cheap it is?? If you understood economics, you would realize how bad of a plan this really is.
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We need LESS regulation
fixed.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140305 - 11/03/08 09:22 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
zippo420 said:
Tax and spend
or borrow and spend?
I rather not drive our dollar down and put this country in the shit house. War in Iraq is lowering our dollar value every month. Gotta look at the bigger picture too
well you have it wrong.
tax and government spends (inefficiently).
or provide tax breaks so our people have more money to spend = promote economic growth.
besides a plummeting dollar will only be short term. dollar weakens, our exports increase (American goods are cheaper) = more jobs, more growth, dollar will go back up. it's fucking basic economics.
just stop now, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140306 - 11/03/08 09:23 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Outsourcing will never stop, I agree
but if you really believe the rest, your fucked
Economics and how they are supposed to work is way different than they do work.
Look at Enron, Exxon, and others, do some research on how they like to pay taxes and help the people.
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140308 - 11/03/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140309 - 11/03/08 09:28 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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you are retarded.
and to go on about you talking about our 'weak dollar'... it has been strengthening if you have been keeping up with it ( http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/gold-falls-dollar-continues-strengthening/story.aspx?guid={F4A959EF-737F-4DF7-AF32-7526D25C3C39} ).
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Look at Enron...
where have you been the last 7 years?? are you fucking kidding me?
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140310 - 11/03/08 09:31 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Your using 750$ an ounce gold to back yourself.
Where the fuck you've been the last 20 years?
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Re: obama is so great [Re: zippo420]
#140313 - 11/03/08 09:35 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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ohhh you two 
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