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wowitch420 said:
hes a pro life libertarian

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Calibrate said:
i just like obama cause he's gotten high....and he's pro medicinal mj.

not to mention hes a darkie.

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wowitch420 said:
hes libertarian

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KillerPicklez said:
I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways

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Calibrate said:
i bet usg doesnt like taxes being payed either.

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KillerPicklez said:
I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways

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there was an article in the news recently where a case (although in America and through insurance) was paid completely by their insurance provider. i wish i could provide a link but i didn't care to save it.

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so then what relevance does it have

none.

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KillerPicklez said:
thats a fucking stupid agrument. so because someone cant afford to carry insurance, fuck them

I really hope you get diagnosed with cancer before you "get rich"

do you have insurance right now? because I bet majority of the people here dont. so fuck us, right?

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Being healthy should be a right, not a privaledge

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KillerPicklez said:
I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways

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there was an article in the news recently where a case (although in America and through insurance) was paid completely by their insurance provider. i wish i could provide a link but i didn't care to save it.

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Being healthy should be a right, not a privaledge

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have you looked around? most americans don't give two shits about their health and you want me to pay for them to get bypass surgeries and shit after they've been eating mcdonalds and shitty food everyday for their lives clogging up their arteries. no thanks.

some medical conditions are unavoidable, but a lot are. most of the time it's the own persons fault.

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KillerPicklez said:
you act like I would be cutting them a check to go do it, randomly.

no your taxes would increase. but in return YOU would have free healthcare.

majority of my family live in a country with socialized medicine and it is a great system. they dont have to worry about perscriptions (my grandparents) and no one has to worrie about financial hardship if someone thing happens to themselves or a loved one. its quite nice

It should definitely be reserved to tax paying citizens. if you file your taxes, then you should have healthcare.

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your taxes would increase. but in return YOU would have free healthcare.

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Healthcare
Making Healthcare Safe and Affordable

As recently as the 1960s, low-cost health insurance was available to virtually everyone in America - including people with existing medical problems. Doctors made house calls. A hospital stay cost only a few days' pay. Charity hospitals were available to take care of families who could not afford to pay for healthcare.

Since then the federal government has increasingly intervened through Medicare, Medicaid, the HMO Act and tens of thousands of regulations on doctors, hospitals and health-insurance companies.
Today, more than 50 percent of all healthcare dollars are spent by the government.

Health insurance costs are skyrocketing. Government health programs are heading for bankruptcy. Politicians continue to pile on the regulations.

The Libertarian Party knows the only healthcare reforms that will make a real difference are those that draw on the strength of the free market.

The Libertarian Party will work towards the following:

1. Establish Medical Saving Accounts.

Under this program, you could deposit tax-free money into a Medical Savings Account (MSA). Whenever you need the money to pay medical bills, you will be able to withdraw it. For individuals without an MSA, the Libertarian Party will work to make all healthcare expenditures 100 percent tax deductible.

2. Deregulate the healthcare industry.

We should repeal all government policies that increase health costs and decrease the availability of medical services. For example, every state has laws that mandate coverage of specific disabilities and diseases. These laws reduce consumer choice and increase the cost of health insurance. By making insurance more expensive, mandated benefits increase the number of uninsured American workers.

3. Remove barriers to safe, affordable medicines.

We should replace harmful government agencies like the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) with more agile, free-market alternatives. The mission of the FDA is to protect us from unsafe medicines. In fact, the FDA has driven up healthcare costs and deprived millions of Americans of much-needed treatments. For example, during a 10-year delay in approving Propanolol Propranolol (a heart medication for treating angina and hypertension), approximately 100,000 people died who could have been treated with this lifesaving drug. Bureaucratic roadblocks kill sick Americans.

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Omni said:
I'm gonna do my part to keep McCain out of office, while I'm not 100% for Obama, a vote for Obama is a vote against McCain. I thought about voting Ron Paul at one point. But it seems like a waste of a vote & increases McCains chance of getting elected, because you took away a vote from Obama.

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way to fall victim to the "us-vs-them" tactics of the "two party system" that is american politics. both candidates are essentially the same. neither will change monetary policy, neither will change drug policy (even tho obama has said some stuff about it, it won't happen. the most we'd get is no more raids on clinics, MAYBE), obama will lead us out of vietnam and into cambodia/laos and mccain will keep fighting the NVA. both voted for the bailout, both would have to raise taxes. the economy is fucked for a while under either president, because neither is willing to take on the bankers. that would be a faux pas.

oh oops i mean iraq and afghanistan.

a vote for third party candidates will be more effective than just voting against mccain, because you voice your dissatisfaction with the choices on both sides (unless you're actually really excited about obama)

i'm voting for Chuck Baldwin



and ya, the dems don't take over until January 20 (for pres), and Jan 3 (for congress)

now i'll probably get all these obama supporters all pissed off at me now, but whatever

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A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

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A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

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Omni said:
I'm gonna do my part to keep McCain out of office, while I'm not 100% for Obama, a vote for Obama is a vote against McCain. I thought about voting Ron Paul at one point. But it seems like a waste of a vote & increases McCains chance of getting elected, because you took away a vote from Obama.

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Omni said:
He doesn't count for write-in party?

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usg543 said:
i will be disappointed if obama wins

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JollyGreenJRayV said:
There's a reason why Fox News is the most watched news network in America.

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Their polls always say McCain won by 86 percent

I'm just wondering if this is enough to sway the american population... do people really buy fox news still?

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THEBats said:
fox isn't biased.  they're fair and balanced as fuck.

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yea, especially Hanity and Colmes and Bill O'reily.

Talk about a no spin zone

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usg543 said:
WHOMG. NEW WORLD ORDER COMING WE WILL BE ENSLAVED BY REPTILLIAN OVERLORDZ LAWLIPOPZ

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