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 b0b gnarley
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 Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory 
#108885 - 08/13/08 11:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is anyone else convinced?
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godspeedyou
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: b0b gnarley]
#108887 - 08/13/08 11:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I consider it to be a definitely possibility, not scientifically but experientially. Just by witnessing the radical shift in consciousnesses that psilocybin brings about, I believe that it could have aided in the development of that animal's awareness, a quality that will be passed to its offspring.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: b0b gnarley]
#108889 - 08/13/08 11:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Smart guy. And he loves pyschedlics. AND hates carlos mencia.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: godspeedyou]
#108891 - 08/13/08 11:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
godspeedyou said:
I believe that it could have aided in the development of that animal's awareness, a quality that will be passed to its offspring.
how would that be passed down genetically? isn't that a trait that has to be learned?
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godspeedyou
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: b0b gnarley]
#108900 - 08/14/08 12:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not necessarily. Think of the way that animals perceive their surroundings: Perhaps an iguana sees the world as blue and red, an indicator of heat, an important part of an iguana's survival. Do you believe the iguana or a fly sees the world as we see it? Because evolution has allowed for all animals to be equipped to survive in their environment, our perceptions are unique to the characteristics needed to survive.
Therefore, I believe that just as animals have developed different consciousnesses and perceptions, it is completely possible for a primate to consume psilocybin and alter these perceptions for the benefit of the species.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: b0b gnarley]
#108904 - 08/14/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
godspeedyou said:
Therefore, I believe that just as animals have developed different consciousnesses and perceptions, it is completely possible for a primate to consume psilocybin and alter these perceptions for the benefit of the species.
Are you saying that psilocybin's effects could have acted on a genetic level, passing down a new sense of awareness to offspring?
sorry i'm not really understanding, explain what you mean. 
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: b0b gnarley]
#108918 - 08/14/08 12:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Although my knowledge of genetics is very minimal (I only have a knowledge of Mendelian genetics), I believe as in all science, we pretend we know more than we really do. I believe there is a lot that we don't know about genetics.
It's not proof for my little theory, but I just wanted to point it out.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: godspeedyou]
#108919 - 08/14/08 12:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd take anything McKenna said with a big grain of salt.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: Toiletduk]
#108920 - 08/14/08 12:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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aye
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Yrat
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: wowitch420]
#109039 - 08/14/08 11:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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although it wouldn't act on a genetic level, any psychological "realizations," observations or perceptions, could be shared with others. this would provide alternate perspectives on pretty much anything, which = greater awareness and higher intelligence.
lol, i dunno, i gotta watch the vids
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: Yrat]
#109047 - 08/14/08 11:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd say among any species, gained knowledge has to be shared with others in order to evolve and progress as a species..... maybe it's more easily shared with less developed species than humans? Like a sort of invisible internet connecting the thoughts of all the members of a species, so if one gains knowledge, they all grow as a whole.....
Or maybe I'm just too sober.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: Siekostoner]
#109051 - 08/14/08 11:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rogan is probably my favorite public personality that endorses psychedelics. At least he's got the intelligence to be able to translate this stuff in to somewhat lament terms for these people to understand.
I haven't disagreed with anything he's said in his psychedelic influenced ramblings yet. I hope he keeps going.
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 Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#109078 - 08/14/08 01:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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McKenna is brilliant too. Fucking love that guy.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#109084 - 08/14/08 02:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rogan just spits out shit.
Anyone could do it.
It's good that he uses his position in the public eye to speak on these things, but he's no different than most of the people on the Shroomery when it comes to him as a person.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: jewunit]
#109226 - 08/14/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
jewunit said:
It's good that he uses his position in the public eye to speak on these things
i think that's what he meant.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: b0b gnarley]
#109230 - 08/14/08 06:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
b0b gnarley said:
Quote:
jewunit said:
It's good that he uses his position in the public eye to speak on these things
i think that's what he meant.
Yea, that's exactly what I meant.
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Re: Terrence McKenna's "Stoned Ape" Theory [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#109336 - 08/14/08 10:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
PsilocybinMike said:
Quote:
b0b gnarley said:
Quote:
jewunit said:
It's good that he uses his position in the public eye to speak on these things
i think that's what he meant.
Yea, that's exactly what I meant.
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