this is like my experimental year but decided to use all the fax farm products since i did get like 700 dollars in supplies for few hundred dollars bonus of growing uo in school with a guy who owns grow shop he have been using it forever and told me their new line is just a way to over charge  and will get same results with with all that extra nutes that they put on the market he used it with loco coco in his backyard and had 13 ft plants producing 4-5 pounds a plant thats what am told but he was my first caregiver when program started and he always grew s0me killer weed..lol